Hi Gerd/Ticker

Can I add the following based on various 'City Navigator Maps'

0 X 2E15 CLOTHING STORE , ie PRIMARK/NEXT
0 X 2E16 CULT CLOTHING /SHOES
0 X 2E17 GARDENING SUPPLIES & DESIGN NURSERY SHOP SELLING LAWN MOWERS
0 X 2E18 HOME IMPROVEMENTS B&Q/HOMEBASE
0 X 2E19 PHOTOGRAPHIC SUPPLIES
0 X 2E1A WORLD FURNITURE
0 X 2E1B OPTICIAN

Depending on device some may not be searchable.

r

Nick

On 03/12/2021 10:41, Ticker Berkin wrote:
Hi all

I have no problem with getting rid of tags where there are no usages in
OSM.

It is best to use 0x2e00 for other/unknown/etc rather than 0x2e0c which
was at the end of the list on old devices and showed as 'other'.
My newer device has:

0x2e0c  Speciality Retail (also 0x2e0a)
0x2e0d  Shopping Center (also 0x2e04)
0x2e0e  Convenience (differs from 0x2e06 which implies fuel)
0x2e0f  Florist
0x2e10  Gift/Antique/Art
0x2e11  Record/CD/Video
0x2e12  Sporting Goods
0x2e13  Wine&Liqour
0x2e14  Book Store

Not sure what would be the best code to use for kiosk

Ticker

On Fri, 2021-12-03 at 09:24 +0000, Gerd Petermann wrote:
Hi all,

allmost all the rules regarding shop=* were added in 2011 and not
changed since.
A quick check against taginfo shows quite a few rules which make no
sense:
0 occurences: shop=bakers [0x2e02 resolution 24]
0 occurences: shop=car_dealer [0x2f07 resolution 24]
Well, they just blow up the style.

On the other hand,
shop=kiosk has no special rule allthough it exists +86000 times:
https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/tags/shop=kiosk
I guess we should treat it like shop=convenience?
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag%3Ashop%3Dconvenience

Other candidates:
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag%3Ashop%3Dmobile_phone
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag%3Ashop%3Dalcohol

Is there a special Garmin type for them that matches better than
0x2e0c which is used in the mop up rule which only catches named
shops?

Gerd

Gerd

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von Gerd Petermann <[email protected]>
Gesendet: Freitag, 3. Dezember 2021 09:53
An: Development list for mkgmap
Betreff: Re: [mkgmap-dev] one correction of default points style
and    a       suggestion for lines

Hi Karl,

interesting, taginfo shows 0 occurences for amenity=emergency_phone:
https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/keys/amenity#values
I guess this was different when the line was added in 2011. See e.g.
https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/43747775
I would not want to place the rule
emergency=phone [0x2f12 resolution 24 default_name 'Emergency Phone']
within the block of rules for amenity. Let's simply remove the wrong
one and add the new after that block.

reg. roundabout:
I wonder why you don't want to add the line
junction=roundabout & highway=service [0x07 road_class=0 road_speed=1
resolution 23]

Gerd

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von 7770 <[email protected]>
Gesendet: Donnerstag, 2. Dezember 2021 21:31
An: [email protected]
Betreff: [mkgmap-dev] one correction of default points style and
a      suggestion for lines

Hi.

Some time ago i ran into the mistake of tagging emergecy_phone as it
is given
in the default example style  ./mkgmap-
r4818/examples/styles/default/points
on line 148:
amenity=emergency_phone [0x2f12 resolution 24 default_name 'Emergency
Phone']

The correct tagging is however:
emergency=phone [0x2f12 resolution 24 default_name 'Emergency Phone']

I have therefor updated this and i am attaching a suggested points
file.
I have done the following:
1. add a comment on line 148 that the above tagging is incorrect.
2. the original line is pushed one line down to 149 and commented
out.
3. a new line 150 is added with the new tagging.


I checked most of Nordic countries and Baltic countries, there were
none
incorrectly tagged emergency phones, i havn't checked the rest of the
world,
but it seems that mistakes should be rare.

If you dont mind and if you feel for it, feel free to add the changes
into the
default example style.




Secondly i have noted  that in the example lines file
./mkgmap-r4818/examples/styles/default/lines
on line 123-143, the section about junction=roundabout, it would be
good to
add the following one line on line 143, and push the current line to
144.
junction=roundabout & (service=alley | service=driveway) [0x07
road_class=0
road_speed=1 resolution 23]

The reason for this suggestion is because of line 198 (or 199 after
the above
addition):
highway=service & (service=alley | service=driveway) [0x07
road_class=0
road_speed=0 resolution 23]

The combination of these will make sure that roundabouts and highways
that are
marked:  highway=service & (service=alley | service=driveway) and can
be
connected to each other are drawn at the same resolution and with the
same
0x07 type.
Otherwise the roundabout is becoming much larger and visible before
the
connecting street/road.

I am attaching an updated lines file as well and again if you dont
mind and if
you feel for it, feel free to add the changes into the default
example style.


Regards
Karl
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