Hmmm,

Last year the EU set out a target that 25% of the EU should be IPv6 by 2010:

http://www.computing.co.uk/computing/news/2217572/eu-sets-2010-target-ipv6

Not exactly ground-breaking...

Keith

On 25 Feb 2009, at 21:05, Raphael Borg Ellul Vincenti wrote:

This is how I understood things, I could be wrong - all information is on their website anyway - www.sixxs.net ; but this will be the short version.

Basically they provide the tools so that people can get tunneled (think dialup) connectivity to the IPv6 network, or else route an IPv6 subnet through one of their tunnels (dialup). Now, its ideal that when you create your tunnel, you create that to the closest (lowest latency and best bandwidth) to you. Basically every connection you will make to the IPv6 network will have that extra hop, so its important that you choose your PoP (think ISP) wisely. Now - here is the crux, there are no Maltese ISPs participating in this. It would be a HUGE win to get at least one ISP to participate in this since a local hop costs barely anytthing to us. Something around 20ms max. The best PoP I found is in Holland and its roungly 70ms slower. Thats quite a bit.

What I mentioned regarding Free.fr previously was different. They provided a real IPv6 connection out of the box - without the need to dialup.

To start trying IPv6 you don't need to enable it on your whole home network. You can start by just doing it on your own PC and dialup straight from your PC. Then, take it a step further and get your router to be IPv6 connected. Some routers do offer this. So don't despair.

On Wed, Feb 25, 2009 at 8:50 PM, Anton Xuereb <[email protected]> wrote:
no dont stop the rant :p

the more discussion the more i get excited about it :P

Ill get in touch with melita as soon as i stop swearing at them for stopping my internet connection when i had paid :/


Anyways, what about sixxs ? how does it work ?


On Wed, Feb 25, 2009 at 8:46 PM, Raphael Borg Ellul Vincenti <[email protected] > wrote: I had received an email after a followup when I met the chairman of the Internet Foundation. As I said I had already done a couple of queries myself. This is as things stood till around 3 weeks ago:

Hi Raphael,

Thanks for your e-mail and I will be pleased to remain in touch with you. I represent the Malta Internet Foundation (NIC Malta) in NISCO but I am also Director of IT Services at the University.

I recall that not long ago you had sent an e-mail on IPv6 to NIC(Malta) and my colleague and I had exchanged a couple of short e- mails with you on this. With regard to IPv6 it would help if as many users as possible demand IPv6 connectivity from their respective ISP's.

To my knowledge GO & Vodafone (who are currently the only commercial companies that have international connectivity) still do not provide IPv6 connectivity. Not sure what Melita Cable will provide once they come on the scene later this year with their submarine fibre.

Regards
Rob



As I said, the best way forward for this to take off is for consumers to ask their ISPs to get connected. Once a local ISP gets connected, all others will get connected too since most of the ISPs share the backbones anyway. Based on a survey done by Google, one of the most surprising statistics regarding IPv6 deployments across a country was when a whole ISP rolls out its IPv6 in its equipment ad sets it as default. This was in 2007. I can understand why ISPs drag their feet in spending money in buying IPv6 connectivity, because if nobody uses it, they would be loosing out. However providing local PoP access can allow them to buy very limited quantitities and allow people to experiment a bit.

<meh> enough ranting


On Wed, Feb 25, 2009 at 8:20 PM, Anton Xuereb <[email protected]> wrote: this is somethign that really interests me actually. Anyone have more info of which isps support/may support in the future ipv6 ?

if yes, how do i switch ? :D

On Wed, Feb 25, 2009 at 6:34 PM, Iain <[email protected]> wrote:
Such a pity when one considers https://www.nic.org.mt/ip/ is supporting
IPv6 but the last local news from http://www.mt.ipv6tf.org/ was over 2
years ago.

"Malta needs to start looking ahead by initiating a Research &
Development programme geared towards the eventual roll-out of IPv6 on a
national basis. Malta should commence experimenting with and planning
for this new version of IP." -

Source: http://www.mca.org.mt/infocentre/openarticle.asp? id=668&pref=47

"The European Commission today set Europe a target of getting 25% of EU
industry, public authorities and households to use IPv6 by 2010"

Source: http://www.mca.org.mt/infocentre/openarticle.asp?id=1197&pref=47

Any ISP people out there got plans for IPv6?

Regs.

Iain.

On 25/02/09 10:08, Raphael Borg Ellul Vincenti wrote:
> None... I have already sent an email to all of them as well as nudging > them to provide PoP access via SIXXS since they would probably need to
> change their ADSL/cable modems. I suggest you send another gentle
> email. The more people ask, the more they consider buying the
> bandwidth. The only entity which apparently has official native IPv6
> connectivity is University through the EU academic network.
>
> If anyone on the list can shed more light about this issue, I would be
> deeply thankful.
>
> I have setup my home router (Linux of course) with IPv6 connectivity
> through a tunnel to holland. The italian PoP which was the closest
> wasn't providing access to non-customers when I registered. I was
> given a /48 and all my home has native IPv6 connectivity. Would be
> great to eliminate the need to tunnel since it kills latency when I
> connect remotely to a file share or download ISOs via bittorrent.
> SIXXS offer a very good bittorrent service for people connected
> natively via IPv6.
>
> On Wed, Feb 25, 2009 at 10:01 AM, Iain <[email protected]> wrote:
>> Anyone know of an ISP in Malta who supports IPv6?
>>
>> Regs.
>>
>> Iain.
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