-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA512 On Sun, Jul 26, 2009 at 9:11 AM, Oisín wrote: > I exported my Chinese deck to Anki a year and a half ago when > Mnemosyne wouldn't work on my new Macbook (due to either pygame or > pyqt not compiling on OS X 10.5), while keeping Mnemosyne on my > Windows and Linux boxes for French and German (what a mess :D). > Having a quick look at my deck, I see stats recorded by Anki of > between 5 minutes for easy cards and 19 minutes for very difficult, > mature cards (9 months old or so). I don't know what the average is, > but I'd expect something more like 10 minutes. Certainly 5 minutes as > a lifetime card maximum seems like a very hopeful estimate, for a > learner who never misses reviews, with easy cards.
Hm. The SuperMemo answer no doubt is that anything much beyond 5 minutes represents a card which needs to be broken down and made easier, or studied better somehow. I installed Anki and imported my deck, only to find that apparently tracking the time like that only works if you do your reviews in Anki. Drat! I would've liked to find the leeches in my deck. I wasn't considering switching to Anki before, but between the web review stuff, and this timing feature, it seems tempting. As someone who used both simultaneously for quite a while, how do they stack up? > As usual, it comes down to a question of how difficult the material in > each card is. E.g. I have a few English-English cards (for words like > "hinterland" and "overweening") in the same deck, which are a year and > a half old and on a ~1.6 year interval, with about 30 sec up to 2 mins > on each. Yes, that seems pretty reasonable to me. > Personally, I'm not sure if using Mnemosyne to learn (memorise?) > Scheme is a productive use of time - programming being less about a > large atomic vocabulary than a small language with many ways to apply > it. Since you already have the knack of programming, I would suggest > that all programming languages are just tiny dialects that sit atop > your existing programming knowledge. By that argument, isn't this the best way of going about learning Scheme given that I already have the knack of programming/know functional Haskell programming? If the differences between them are dialectical, then that suggests that only the vocab and syntax differ substantially - and what's the killer app for SRS? Vocab... > Most of programming is about developing abstract skills, somewhat > similar to driving a car. I wouldn't use an SRS to learn how to drive > a car :D Hmm. Maybe in 2.0 we can add a 'joystick' card type, which fires up a 3D driving simulator! You can have cards covering every aspect of intersections, icy bridges, rights of ways... Bwa ha ha. > That said, I'd love to hear how it pans out and if it can work well. > Perhaps my prejudice against SRS use for more difficult subjects than > vocabulary/grammar/facts comes from my failure to use it successfully > when studying a couple of final year compsci courses. Which is > probably down to poor application by myself rather than limited > applicability! > > Oisín It can be difficult. I don't think I would be studying Scheme this way if I didn't have hundreds of practice problems and all the examples - it would just be expecting too much of myself. If I knew the right examples to create, I wouldn't need to study them... - -- gwern -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) iEYEAREKAAYFAkpsi2gACgkQvpDo5Pfl1oK1zwCdHyp1n/cosYKmdUu/UAWr/kfC 3D8An3LXVmE8YGacl8Jgz10YNBX8Jd1c =ILB1 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "mnemosyne-proj-users" group. To post to this group, send email to mnemosyne-proj-users@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to mnemosyne-proj-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/mnemosyne-proj-users?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
