Thanks for sharing! You can certainly write code to create *.cards files from your text files, or even write a Python script to directly interface with the database, but be aware that with great power comes great responsibility :-)
Peter On Mon, Sep 23, 2024 at 8:35 PM Felipe Vieira <[email protected]> wrote: > > > But I do think you're making things overly complicated by trying to do your > > edits outside of Mnemosyne... > > Thanks, I take your advice with consideration. > > But perhaps sharing a bit more my use case could be beneficial to others. > > Long form: I usually have my computer in front of me when studying, and I > like to have a text editor close at hand to add notes with ease. In this > sense, having Mnemosyne as a [rec > file](https://www.gnu.org/software/recutils/) makes things easier for me. > With 3 — 4 key strokes I'm at the right place adding a new card (see the > example below) (I'm a vim/keyboard-first user). Also, as I study, my > cards/knowledge grows over time (so cards themselves change a few times). So > I would like to allow my cards to easily (= keyboard first in my case) > evolve. Not just that, I like to version control all my manual work, as it > makes it easy to allow for either corrections and/or backups (text is easier > in this case compared to a sqllite database). > > Example of a card: > > ``` > id: 72e48ba2-207b-4dcd-8bad-f7673df85be8 > front: > + Is there historical basis for a Dorian Invasion? > back: > + No, there is no such thing as the Dorian Invasion. > ``` > > Which then got expanded into: > > ``` > id: 72e48ba2-207b-4dcd-8bad-f7673df85be8 > front: > + Is there historical basis for a Dorian Invasion? > back: > + No, there is no such thing as the Dorian Invasion. > + > + «Greece in the Making, 1200-479 BC»: "It is perfectly possible, therefore, > to explain how there could come to be traditions of Dorian invasion and > Ionian migration when there were no such historical events. What is more, > when the archaeological record is examined in detail it does not in fact > support claims that those events occurred." > ``` > > Notice how (apparently) using the same `id` keeps the state of the same > "idea" in Mnemosyne (I have verified this in practice) (the cards content > might differ slightly over time). > > —————————— > > So summarizing my use case: > > * Storing cards as plain text has its advantages, namely version control > and ease of edition; I can edit cards outside of a point-and-click GUI, and > this makes a lot of difference as I usually do so on-the-fly as I study. If > adding cards has some friction (open and wait for the program to launch, > click on a few boxes, manually add tags, etc) people will add fewer cards > (and possibly use the program less; that's how I feel [I know I'm only one > very peculiar user of this project]). > > * I would like cards that have the same ID to be preserved as they > (slightly) evolve (e.g. adding citations, adding more elaborate answers, etc). > > * I would like to be able to non-interactively import this "persistent" set > of cards → I have not tried this one, but hopefully Mnemosyne has a CLI for > that. > > This degree of automation makes things way more easier for me. Think > everything as part of a series of `make` rules: > > a. A plaintext file changes. > > b. I run my program (I intend to share here shortly), and it creates the > cards in the `.card` format (compressed XML in a certain schema). > > c. Mnemosyne's CLI then import these and "merges" (updates?) the > existing cards with their new slightly altered forms; **the statistics are > kept**. > > This is a pretty powerful, time saving and inviting setup. This frees up some > time and incentives Mnemosyne use (again, that's how I/one user feel). I know > this is very particular to my use case but I think other users who happen to > be developers might benefit from some of the ideas here. > > Again, thanks for all your work on Mnemosyne. > Peter Bienstman در تاریخ دوشنبه ۱۹ اوت ۲۰۲۴ ساعت ۱:۱۵:۴۰ (UTC-3) نوشت: >> >> Hi, >> >> There is no formal specification, but as you noticed from looking at the >> file format, it's not that complicated. >> >> But I do think you're making things overly complicated by trying to do your >> edits outside of Mnemosyne... >> >> Peter >> >> >> On Mon, 19 Aug 2024, 05:39 Felipe Vieira, <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> Hi, I'm trying to become a user once again. I have a few .cards instances >>> so I can infer some sort of specification. In any case, do you have a more >>> formal pointer to this file format that I can use? >>> >>> My use case is: >>> >>> ``` >>> front: Question abcde? >>> back: Answer xyz. >>> id: abf6a0be-71c5-4c7e-b379-0d9091b3e3c3 >>> ``` >>> >>> Where I expect the question and answer to change or be increased slightly >>> over time, but I would like to keep the statistics and all other metadata >>> tied to the `id` >>> >>> ``` >>> front: Question abcde fgh? >>> back: Answer xyz 123. >>> id: abf6a0be-71c5-4c7e-b379-0d9091b3e3c3 >>> ``` >>> >>> What's the best way to keep this manageable? >>> >>> Cheers, >>> >>> Felipe >>> Peter Bienstman در تاریخ شنبه ۱۴ اکتبر ۲۰۲۳ ساعت ۲:۳۲:۵۶ (UTC-3) نوشت: >>>> >>>> Hi, >>>> >>>> I don't think you need to delete and recreate all the time. However, if >>>> you don't want to lose your learning data when reimporting, you need to >>>> use the cards format. Txt files do not contain card ids. >>>> >>>> Cheers, >>>> >>>> Peter >>>> >>>> >>>> On Sat, 14 Oct 2023, 07:29 Felipe Vieira, <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Hi, is there a way to automate the card imports? >>>>> >>>>> While I'm creating a card group (deck?) I would like to iterate on it. >>>>> e.g., start creating, import it, test a bit, go back, change a few >>>>> things, import it, etc. It would be great if I could do this in a non >>>>> interactive way (i.e. having to click on things). >>>>> >>>>> The last post in this vain is the following: >>>>> <https://groups.google.com/g/mnemosyne-proj-users/c/xot26WkHb-A/m/UVSzXy5RdgoJ>. >>>>> >>>>> I imagine that in practice that would amount to: >>>>> >>>>> 1. Delete the collection of cards `collection_abc` (I kindly ask for >>>>> pointers on how to do this). >>>>> >>>>> 2. Save the a new `collection_abc` somewhere (this part is easy). >>>>> >>>>> 3. Insert the (new) collection of cards `collection_abc` (I kindly ask >>>>> for pointers on how to do this). >>>>> >>>>> I saw the `.cards` format and it is a bit complicated (XML) so I guess I >>>>> could export a tab separated file and hardcode the metadata in the code >>>>> that does this (e.g. a `python` script). >>>>> >>>>> I can program. >>>>> >>>>> So I'm roughly asking for directions here, or a few places to look at. >>>>> >>>>> I'll definitely share the end results. >>>>> >>>>> Best, >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>>>> "mnemosyne-proj-users" group. >>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>>>> email to [email protected]. >>>>> To view this discussion on the web visit >>>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/mnemosyne-proj-users/0cc60c78-c669-48c2-8094-563aeb80dfe8n%40googlegroups.com. >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "mnemosyne-proj-users" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>> email to [email protected]. >>> >>> To view this discussion on the web visit >>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/mnemosyne-proj-users/f0fb140f-61d4-4e40-a31e-f3b8dea8ac7an%40googlegroups.com. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "mnemosyne-proj-users" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/mnemosyne-proj-users/3d9fe2ae-930f-4ed4-b017-091712c51359n%40googlegroups.com. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "mnemosyne-proj-users" group. 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