Slightly off topic but Blackberry also has a suite of Android tools where
you basically repackage an .apk as a .bar and it magically works via on
device Android emulation. I've used it previously and it worked well
overall.


--stephen

On Fri, Aug 7, 2015 at 9:08 AM, Joaquin Oltra Hernandez <
jhernan...@wikimedia.org> wrote:

> It would be interesting to try it, if anything to see if the performance
> is acceptable.
>
> On Fri, Aug 7, 2015 at 3:28 PM, Dmitry Brant <dbr...@wikimedia.org> wrote:
>
>> I've just received access to the beta of the Windows Android Bridge[1],
>> which will supposedly allow Android apps to run on Windows 10 Mobile with
>> very little modification. In fact, most of the bridge functionality has to
>> do with providing interop functions that replace Google Play services,
>> which we don't use anyway.
>>
>> I'll also mention that Microsoft has an equivalent bridge for iOS apps
>> (which they've recently open-sourced[2]) that should allow existing iOS
>> apps to run on Windows Phone.
>>
>> My concern, however, would be that our Android app (or iOS app) would
>> look really out of place if it ran unmodified within the ecosystem of
>> Windows 10 Mobile, meaning that we would still need to devote significant
>> design and engineering resources to make the app look like it "belongs" on
>> this platform...
>>
>>
>> [1] http://uwp.dev.windows.com/en-us/uwp-bridges/android/
>> [2] https://github.com/Microsoft/WinObjC/
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Aug 3, 2015 at 6:29 AM, Joaquin Oltra Hernandez <
>> jhernan...@wikimedia.org> wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks for the link Adam, there's interesting context there.
>>>
>>> On Thu, Jul 30, 2015 at 5:32 PM, Adam Baso <ab...@wikimedia.org> wrote:
>>>
>>>> My understanding is: in part, although people who were on the mobile
>>>> team during the most active part of these projects are probably best
>>>> situated to speak to it. There's also this page that has some historical
>>>> information:
>>>>
>>>> https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Apps/Wikipedia/Hybrid_notes
>>>>
>>>> -Adam
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Jul 30, 2015 at 7:41 AM, Stephane Bisson <sbis...@wikimedia.org
>>>> > wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Is the firefox os wikipedia app that's currently out there based on
>>>>> the old phonegap app?
>>>>>
>>>>> https://marketplace.firefox.com/app/wikipedia/
>>>>>
>>>>> https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/admin/projects/apps/firefox/wikipedia
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, Jul 30, 2015 at 10:06 AM, Michael Holloway <
>>>>> mhollo...@wikimedia.org> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> The old PhoneGap app repo lives here on GitHub:
>>>>>> https://github.com/wikimedia/WikipediaMobile
>>>>>>
>>>>>> (I haven't touched it and can't speak to its current state.)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Thu, Jul 30, 2015 at 9:52 AM, Joaquin Oltra Hernandez <
>>>>>> jhernan...@wikimedia.org> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I've also floated the idea of cleaning up / replacing the
>>>>>>>> experimental Firefox OS app (which is based on our old PhoneGap app 
>>>>>>>> code)
>>>>>>>> and using a modernized HTML5+JS app for both Firefox OS and Windows 10
>>>>>>>> Tablet/Mobile. Nobody's bitten on the idea yet, but I think it might be
>>>>>>>> better than trying to separately spin up resources for multiple 
>>>>>>>> minority
>>>>>>>> mobile OSs.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Where is such phonegap app? I'm very interested in building a web
>>>>>>> client and have already been doing so for the last 2 hackathons
>>>>>>> <http://chimeces.com/webkipedia/> (T106275
>>>>>>> <https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T106275>) and I'm working on it
>>>>>>> thinking mobile first.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I would be very interested in checking the feature set of the old
>>>>>>> phonegap app and when good enough, making an effort to package something
>>>>>>> like that web client for firefoxOS & windows phone.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thoughts?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Sun, Jul 26, 2015 at 4:10 AM, Stephen Niedzielski <
>>>>>>> sniedziel...@wikimedia.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>   Hey! I believe we update the Wikipedia for Fire OS (Android)
>>>>>>>> app[0] whenever a production version has fully rolled out on Play, 
>>>>>>>> although
>>>>>>>> we don't offer the Beta[2] on Appstore. I can see they're both 
>>>>>>>> currently at
>>>>>>>> the latest and greatest. I don't have Fire device presently, but if you
>>>>>>>> highlight a term for sharing and have Wikipedia installed, you should 
>>>>>>>> get
>>>>>>>> the option to search with the app. I *thought* there was also some
>>>>>>>> additional platform level support for Wikipedia lookups built by 
>>>>>>>> Amazon but
>>>>>>>> I might be mistaken.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> --stephen
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> [0] https://www.amazon.com/gp/mas/dl/android?p=org.wikipedia
>>>>>>>> [1] https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=org.wikipedia
>>>>>>>> [2]
>>>>>>>> https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=org.wikipedia.beta
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Sat, Jul 25, 2015 at 7:42 PM, Pine W <wiki.p...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Hi Brion,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Ok, thanks.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Is the Wikipedia app promoted to Kindle Fire users very much? It
>>>>>>>>> would be interesting if highlighting a term in a Kindle book or 
>>>>>>>>> newspaper
>>>>>>>>> would take the user to a Wikipedia or Wiktionary article for 
>>>>>>>>> definitions
>>>>>>>>> and background info.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I wonder if Microsoft would be willing to support Wikipedia app
>>>>>>>>> development for Windows with Microsoft financing or in-kind 
>>>>>>>>> contribution of
>>>>>>>>> developer time. Any thoughts?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Pine
>>>>>>>>> On Jul 25, 2015 6:08 PM, "Brion Vibber" <bvib...@wikimedia.org>
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, Jul 25, 2015 at 5:56 PM, Pine W <wiki.p...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Mobilizers,
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> 1. Do you think it would make sense to develop a Wikipedia app
>>>>>>>>>>> for Kindle, or to encourage Amazon to do so or financially sponsor 
>>>>>>>>>>> its
>>>>>>>>>>> development?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Kindle Fire devices are Android-based and can run the existing
>>>>>>>>>> Android Wikipedia app. The bare-bones e-ink Kindle readers are 
>>>>>>>>>> another
>>>>>>>>>> story perhaps. :)
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> 2. Same questions for Windows and Microsoft, especially
>>>>>>>>>>> considering the Windows 10 launch.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I did an experimental JavaScript/WinJS-based Windows tablet app
>>>>>>>>>> back for the Windows 8 launch, which is still in the Windows Store 
>>>>>>>>>> but
>>>>>>>>>> needs to be cleaned up for Windows 10 or perhaps killed and 
>>>>>>>>>> replaced. :)
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Windows 10 will also have a Mobile edition for phones 'and small
>>>>>>>>>> tablets'; there's a unified app platform between desktop and mobile 
>>>>>>>>>> on
>>>>>>>>>> Windows 10 so it should be possible to adapt the tablet app to run on
>>>>>>>>>> phones (or rewrite it entirely to run on both!)
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> There's also been some talk about using the framework Microsoft
>>>>>>>>>> has put together for porting Android apps to Windows 10 Mobile, but 
>>>>>>>>>> I don't
>>>>>>>>>> think anybody has a good handle on how tricky that will be to use, 
>>>>>>>>>> or the
>>>>>>>>>> cost-benefit of working on Windows 10 Mobile in general.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I've also floated the idea of cleaning up / replacing the
>>>>>>>>>> experimental Firefox OS app (which is based on our old PhoneGap app 
>>>>>>>>>> code)
>>>>>>>>>> and using a modernized HTML5+JS app for both Firefox OS and Windows 
>>>>>>>>>> 10
>>>>>>>>>> Tablet/Mobile. Nobody's bitten on the idea yet, but I think it might 
>>>>>>>>>> be
>>>>>>>>>> better than trying to separately spin up resources for multiple 
>>>>>>>>>> minority
>>>>>>>>>> mobile OSs.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> -- brion
>>>>>>>>>>
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