Hi :)
Thanks, that does make sense.
We just have to spot the message on the appropriate list.
Regards from
Tom :)
>________________________________
> From: Christian Lohmaier <lohma...@googlemail.com>
>To: anne-ology <lagin...@gmail.com>
>Cc: Sigrid Carrera <sigrid.carr...@gmail.com>; moderators
><moderators@documentfoundation.org>
>Sent: Thursday, 16 May 2013, 10:15
>Subject: Re: [tdf-moderators] Re: re. Invitation: Dear God,s Select,
>
>
>Hi Anne, *,
>
>On Wed, May 15, 2013 at 9:17 PM, anne-ology <lagin...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> I do that for a very simple reason;
>> so all of this group is aware of what's happening.
>
>As the explanation that follows is rather longish, here the short-form:
>the decision whether a mail is spam or legitimate is fast, moderators
>know immediately whether to let it pass or ignore it. Replying to
>moderate it is fast as well. Much faster than reading an additional
>mail, so any notices about what actions one moderator did take are not
>needed.
>
>But here's the long version about why letting the group know "what's
>happening" doesn't make sense. There are a total of 3 cases, and in
>neither a forwarded mail makes sense.
>
>1) you let the mail pass to the list
> → moderators will see the mail on the list → that is their
>notification that they don't need to take action (even if they do,
>nothing happens, the mail won't be delivered twice to the list)
>
>2) you don't let the mail pass because it is obvious spam
> → other moderators will also know this is spam and not let them
>pass. Sending a note "this is spam" is telling the other moderators:
>"I don't think you're smart enough to tell that this is a spam
>message". So no benefit here.
>
>3) you explicitly reject the message because it is not-so-obvious-spam
>or because it contains flames/hatred/whatever
> → no matter what moderators think of it, you already made the
>decision. Whether moderators ignore it or reply to it to let it pass,
>it doesn't have any effect. A note won't really help.
>
>People get moderation requests immediately, and any note you sent will
>be only with a delay. So the chances that moderators already have read
>& parsed & made their decision whether to let it pass or ignore before
>reading any of your notes.
>
>The only case when it makes sense to send notification to other
>moderators is when you reject a mail with the intend to contact the
>author of the rejected mail on why it was rejected ("I'll let the
>poster know that his mail contained private data, and the poster might
>not be aware that this info will be public in various archives"). I.e.
>when you reject (and then it must be a reject, and not just ignore to
>let it expire) a "legitimate" mail (no spam or similar).
>
>Remember:
>Moderator's job as in "technical mailinglist administrator" is to let
>mails through to the list from people that are not subscribed.
>
>It happens that also spam is sent to the list-address, that obviously
>should not be passed. moderator's job is not to replace a spam-filter
>(there already are spam filters before it even gets handed over to the
>mailing list system) - but rather to let valid postings through.
>Ignoring the spam is just a side-effect.
>
>Of course it depends on the type of list whether on what the ratio of
>spam to legitimate messges is (announce lists have more "spam", as
>real people using it is low, etc)
>
>And there are of course other meanings of moderator, but those are
>unrelated to a "technical mailing-list moderator" as is the topic
>here. If you have spare cycles, you can moderate the list itself in
>the sense of acting as a mediator, take care that the tone on the
>lists stays friendly, and similar - but this then happens on the list
>itself or by private mails to the people involved in the discussion on
>the list and does not affect the other "technical mailinglist
>moderators" :-)
>
>ciao
>Christian
>
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