I saw Joan of Arc the other night here in Boston. They were amazing. The whole show, Tim Kinsella was really excited because he said they were playing much better than they had been on the tour. He said that especially the night before (which I guess was Philly) they played horribly. So, maybe that explains something....plus the fact that summer shows in the church suck. I'm originally from philly, and havent been to a church show in ages. anyway, like i said, i was amazed at how good they were live. Tim Kinsella has a great stage presence...and euphone was rad too. *meredith*