In a message dated 11/25/99 1:07:03 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: << hey isnt damien jurado christian? well cause hears the thing..i cant stand fucking stand him..his music sucks basically just another will oldham rip off...but you see...last nihgt i was watching something on the dinsey channel for like 5 minutes (dont ask) and one of the teenage characters had a fucking damien jurado poster on his wall...i swear to god...now dont you think thats lame? like maybe the producer put it there cause he was familiar with damien's music...probly just because hes christian or something you know? i just found that to be very odd..i mean its the disney channel for godssake...you wouldnt see a disney movie with a will oldham poster on the wall..or any other indie rock musical outfit for that matter. oh well this is going no where..i just thought it was funny. andrew >> yeah, it's your opinion, but, hey, it sucks. what is the correlation between "hey (isn't) damien jurado christian?" and "well cause (here's) the thing . . . i cant stand fucking stand him. . ." now, either you're a) a foreigner to the english language and proper grammar, or b.) qualifying the fact that you don't like him by noting his personal beliefs. this makes you incredibly ignorant, and quite narrow-minded. though i normally don't go to lengths to associate myself with any term relating to religion, for your convenience i shall call myself an atheist (i generally find the term to be reactionary to something that isn't a part of my life, and therefore don't use it). chances are, if i were going to film a scene that involved a character that listened to music, i might very well put a damien jurado poster on his wall. and not because i'm christian or something, you know? the closest damien has come to being "blatantly christian" in a song would be halo-friendly, and that's a stretch. if you don't like the music, fine. if you're ill-informed and have a poor enough perspective on music to call him "another will oldham rip off," fine. but whatever his religion, it's not enough of a component of the music to use it as a rationale to trash the guy. as far as i can tell, he's never tried to convert people (on neither of his solo albums - both on sub pop, a decidely non-christian label that happens to be rather shrewd in marketing - does he even thank god or jc in the liner notes, or mention his beliefs in any other context)- he's not dc talk or twila paris, so back off. i tell you this as a favor, because inveritably, you sound dumb in front of people that have any real perspective on what you're talking about. admittedly, i am a fan of damien jurado. but your statements just don't make sense, as there isn't much of a correlation between the music and his faith. if isaac happened to be christian, you could put modest mouse in where you put mr. jurado's name. the mouse's music, as i'm sure you know, doesn't have anything to do with a belief in and love of christ or god. so, in the hypothetical case that they happened to be christian, their christianity wouldn't be a logical grounds on trashing their music, would it? and, if you think that just because someone works for disney that they must be christian, i'm sorry to shatter another bit of your naivete. star. by the way, small soldiers had a man or astroman poster, as well as a possum dixon poster.
