No kidding. I think if modest mouse had the money, they would have sounded like "The Moon & Antarctica" from the beginning. Isaac has said that this is the sound they've always wanted, but couldn't afford. In that sense, it may be the first "real" Modest Mouse album... that is, Modest Mouse as they've intended to sound. Anyways, I'm all for it - I love the new album something awful. -----Original Message----- From: Mark Richardson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, June 16, 2000 12:17 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [MMouse]: Re: initial reaction (not so sugar-coated) I can see people not digging the new album, it does sound a lot different from their older stuff. But make no mistake, M&A sounds EXACTLY like Isaac and the band want it to sound, it has nothing to do with what Epic wants. Brian Deck, the guy who produced the album, is the architect behind the Red Red Meat sound (which two guys from Califone are in) a sound (and band) that Isaac happens to love. Brian Deck has never, to my knowledge, had a major-label production credit before, in fact I think he's only produced a few of those Perishable bands (oRSo, Drumhead) that no one has ever listened to. So whatever you think of the sound of the new album, don't for a second think it had anything to do with what Epic wanted. Isaac loves that fuller sound and he worked with guys whom he thought could help him get it. He was sick of that thin, K/Up/KRS business, and I don't blame him.