Hi, all I'm working on improving http://perl.apache.org/guide/control.html and need your help. I have two requests. 1. In addition to the technique I've already described at http://perl.apache.org/guide/control.html#Safe_Code_Updates_on_a_Live_Prod please share the techniques for live server upgrades: a. server itself upgarage b. code (scripts/modules) upgrade c. anything else that I forgot? Of course the idea is to have close to zero downtime. Hey, I'm not talking about clusters, where you can just put down a machine at a time and upgrage while the other servers are working. I'm talking about the basic setup where you have a single machine. Thanks! 2. The other request is about the "Controlling and Monitoring the Server" chapter itself. Do you think that in addition to the existing items (see below) you/we want to see other things related to this chapter. Probably some of you have different needs than I, so you probably need to solve other problems (or have already solved them and want to share with the rest of us). Also, I'm interested in more scenarios in addition to: http://perl.apache.org/guide/control.html#Starting_a_Personal_Server_for_E where more than developer is working on the project. And of course monitoring scripts, fancy log rotaters, anything that you think will fit, are very welcome. But before you submit please check out what's there already so we won't waste the time on duplicates. See http://perl.apache.org/guide/control.html first!!! Currently we have there: Restarting techniques Implications of sending TERM, HUP, and USR1 to the server Using apachectl to control the server Safe Code Updates on a Live Production Server An Intentional Disabling of Live Scripts SUID Start-up Scripts Preparing for Machine Reboot Monitoring the Server. A watchdog. Running a Server in Single Process Mode Starting a Personal Server for Each Developer Wrapper to Emulate the Server Environment Log Rotation Preventing mod_perl Processes From Going Wild Thanks a million! ______________________________________________________________________ Stas Bekman | JAm_pH -- Just Another mod_perl Hacker http://stason.org/ | mod_perl Guide http://perl.apache.org/guide mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] | http://perl.org http://stason.org/TULARC/ http://singlesheaven.com| http://perlmonth.com http://sourcegarden.org ----------------------------------------------------------------------