Chris,

This sounds precisely like CGI::FastTemplate, which I have used heavily and
like a lot.  My other favorite templating system is HTML::Template, but
CGI::FastTemplate is *very* lightweight.

- David
----- Original Message -----
From: Chris Carline <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: Gunther Birznieks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, August 02, 2000 2:32 AM
Subject: RE: Feature sets [was Re: Templating System]


> Hi there,
>
> I have a pure perl implementation of a simple templating system which is
> (what I consider to be) relatively lightweight - it copes well in both
> cgi-bin and mod_perl environments, at least for me. I've looked at various
> other modules, and do believe mine brings an alternative slant to the
> proceedings 8)
>
> A simple example of it in action (if it were called My::Simple::Template)
> would be:
>
> use My::Simple::Template;
> my $template = new My::Simple::Template;
> $template->tags( { key1 => 'value1', key2 => 'value2' } );
> print $template->generate("/path/to/template.html");
>
> I've been thinking about releasing it for a while (I've just received
> permission from my employer to do so) under the GPL/Artistic license,
> although I'm pretty nervous about the quality of the code (primarily due
to
> having not released anything for public scrutiny before!). I know that
there
> are a few things that could do with a bit of tidying up, however 8)
>
> It's around 300 lines of code (plus docs) and has been tested with perl
> 5.005 (although it should work with earlier versions with a bit of
> fiddling), on under solaris, linux and windows, cgi-bin and mod_perl. I'll
> quite happily supply what I currently have to anyone who's interested.
>
> Synopsis of "main" features:
>
>  * in-line insertions with name/value pairs (obviously)
>  * loops
>  * basic if/else constructs
>  * template comments
>  * file includes
>  * file and database caching of preprocessed templates
>  * "loose" expansion of tags
>  * "template subroutines" (hard to explain in one line)
>
> Please mail me if you're interested in finding out more
>
> Chris
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Gunther Birznieks [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: 02 August 2000 09:20
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: Feature sets [was Re: Templating System]
>
>
> I have to say that I am also interested in template kits myself.
>
> My requirements are almost identical to yours (minus a few advanced
things).
>
> Basically, I write open source web applications in Perl -- that means that
> they must be able to run reasonably fast on non-modperl systems and must
> run on a variety of ISPs (ie not dedicated servers where you control the
> version of Perl).
>
> Of course, mod_perl support is crucial for those that want to "scale", but
> normal CGI/Perl support is really a biggie that I haven't seen highlighted
> within the context of this thread.
>
> Here are my CGI/Perl requirements:
>
> 1) Must be 100% pure Perl or support pure-Perl alternatives if certain
libs
> arent compiled. Many people who download CGI scripts don't know how to
> compile stuff.
>
> 2) Must support Perl 5.004 and above. Ideal to support Perl 5.003. Enough
> ISPs and corporations around the world are still on 5.004 that only
> supporting the latest Perl version is not doable.
>
> 3) Must incur as minimal load-time as possible. CGI/Perl scripts are not
> cached like mod_perl scripts.
>
> So CGI/Perl people must have a template system that can choose to load a
> minimal amount of code if really advanced features aren't used. IE would
> rather not have a templating system as large as CGI.pm. Or rather it can
be
> as large as CGI.pm, but only if the extra code is loaded when advanced
> features are accessed -- normal CGI/Perl users should not be penalized.
>
> 4) Must have a license that supports redistribution in other scripts.  I
> think most of the systems out there do that (maybe all the Perl ones do).
>
> CPAN is great for us, but again, most real-world web app users are not
CPAN
> savvy and don't have the rights to install global modules on their ISP nor
> the learning to install them locally. So an open source web app that takes
> advantage of a template system really should also contain that template
> system. The power users can remove it from the local dir if they have a
> globally installed version of the system.
>
> Anyway, I felt that I should state these feature requirements because this
> list is so mod_perl centric, I think sometimes we forget the "little"
> people. And there are many more of them out there than mod_perl servers
and
> Perl/CPAN savvy people.
>
> <RANT_IN_ADVANCE>And please don't say that they should RTFM. Most users do
> not have time to RTFM. If they did, they would be us. :) These users are
> people who know their business and typically learn just enough tech to
> install something that will help their business -- they don't care or want
> a CS degree in the process.</RANT_IN_ADVANCE>
>
> Later,
>     Gunther
>
>
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