While I don't want to be a C programmer, apparently I am going to have to learn what "classes" and "methods" are in order to compile mod_perl 1.24_01 into Apache 1.3.14, running Perl 5.6.0 and on top of Linux 2.2.16 (RHL 7.0 base dist). And I may even have to learn how to debug C code, to get rid of a nasty "error #29 in modules/src.t" when attempting to compile. I was hoping not; sometimes one just wants to be a user. To be braindead and enjoy that state of blisss. The error I have been receiving, "Use of unitialized value in concatenation (.) at modules/src.t at line 27" appears to be a nasty one. Unfortunately, the errors statements don't tell me which variable values to intialize, although it IS smart enough to recognize that the value has not been set. I know these things take time... If someone has a solution, I am at your mercy and will attempt to be eternally grateful. So, if someone could point me to the a URL that gives me the basics on understanding this required paradigm shift into "C", maybe I can get started helping to resolve this error. I don't want to spend all of my time on this list complaining. I had just wanted to USE the package, not to have to help debug it, yet if that is what is required, I guess I'd better roll up my sleeves and get started... Andrew Lietzow Plantsman Being drug kicking and screaming into being a Hacker? Oh, no!!!