This is the last time I am replying on this topic to the list it has gone way OT. But I would like to clarify. CPAN doesnt exactly force you to upgrade everything on the planet but yes some modules depend on features available in other modules only after a certain version number. Yes as has been discussed not all CPAN modules are great but that doesnt mean we shouldnt ever move on to a newer version of anything at all. Even then you can change your CPAN config and change the follow to ask and you wont be taken on a upgrade ride. I admire Debian for it's stability and yes redhat usually tends to be on the edge of everything but then it is a personal choice and not everything in RedHat is broken it usually works pretty well as it is. I personally dont like the attitude most Debian users have and that is Debian is great and everything else is shit or equivalent to MS Windows ;). I am really sorry if my email offends anyone but I dont want to start any flames or distro war right now - lets get back to modperl and be happy with whatever we are comfortable with as long as it doesnt misguide people into thinking that others are doing wrong just because they are doing it differently. End of this thread from my side. Mithun