> Thats possibly because STDERR isn't tied to anything yet. There's > some black magic that seems to go on.
That's correct http://perl.apache.org/docs/2.0/user/config/config.html#C_PerlConfigRequire_ I knew that was the case, it just interferes with the behaviour that I would like. I think I've figured on the following: - the startup info isn't really important except when you're debugging - so normally have setup happen during the restart_count!=1 phase - include a -Dverbose flag when you WANT to see what is going on, which would set it to load the setup when restart_count==1