on 6/20/01 3:16 PM, David Rees at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> I'm using Netscape 4.76 straight from Netscape without any problems over
> here.
>
I wish I were you ;^)
> Now, you've basically disabled all keep alives and HTTP 1.1 for all browsers
> except Netscape on the PC and Unix and probably have something like this:
>
? I think I've only removed keep alives and HTTP 1.1 on PPC Macintosh
machines running Netscape 4+. If there is more disabled, it's a result of
the default config of mod_ssl.
> BrowserMatch "MSIE" nokeepalive ssl-unclean-shutdown downgrade-1.0
> force-response-1.0
> BrowserMatch "Mozilla/4\..*PPC)$" nokeepalive downgrade-1.0
> force-response-1.0
>
Closer to this;
<IfModule mod_setenvif.c>
BrowserMatch "Mozilla/2" nokeepalive
BrowserMatch "MSIE 4\.0b2;" nokeepalive downgrade-1.0 force-response-1.0
BrowserMatch "RealPlayer 4\.0" force-response-1.0
BrowserMatch "Java/1\.0" force-response-1.0
BrowserMatch "JDK/1\.0" force-response-1.0
BrowserMatch "Mozilla/4\..*PPC)$" nokeepalive downgrade-1.0
force-response-1.0
</IfModule>
Which I will remove the new entry and then change to;
<IfDefine SSL>
AddType application/x-x509-ca-cert .crt
AddType application/x-pkcs7-crl .crl
<VirtualHost 192.168.3.11:443>
DocumentRoot "/usr/local/www/secure"
ServerName www.rblc.com
php_value session.cache_limiter "nocache"
.... lines removed for clarity ...
SetEnvIf User-Agent ".*MSIE.*" \
nokeepalive ssl-unclean-shutdown \
downgrade-1.0 force-response-1.0
SetEnvIf User-Agent "Mozilla/4\..*PPC)$" \
nokeepalive downgrade-1.0 \
force-response-1.0
</VirtualHost>
</IfDefine>
This will, I believe, stop the hanging with Netscape 4+ on the Mac in the
secured area of my web site. Note that this area is a paying member area and
broadband is a requirement for the client. All other areas of the site will
still allow Netscape 4+ and MSIE 5+ to enjoy keep alives and HTTP 1.1
performance.
> At this point, you may as well disable keep alives for everyone and simplify
> the setup with something like this:
>
> SetEnv nokeepalive downgrade-1.0 force-response-1.0
> BrowserMatch "MSIE" ssl-unclean-shutdown
>
> But if your site has many small images with clients on slow links, I think
> you'll find yourself looking for ways to turn keep alive back on to speed
> things up.
>
> -Dave
That would be akin to throwing my hands into the air, which I never do ;^)
It's not like I have to type a new httpd.conf entry every hour. If one line
in httpd.conf works for even 10% of my client base that is better than
simplifying the setup and crippling everyone.
So the problem isn't solved, just "avoided" at this point. I think it's
agreed something is wrong then and I should compile all the current
information and file a bug report.
DAve
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