I implemented the suggested configuration to ix buggy IE SSL
implementations, which includes disableing keepalive and it seems to have
made this problem go away (the crashing of apache under SSL) even though it
is not what the config changes were intended to fix.  I did some
troubleshoting and the crashing seemed specifically related to keepalive,
probably in conjunction with multiple request over a single connection (1.1)

Justin

-----Original Message-----
From: Johannes Bertscheit [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Saturday, December 01, 2001 9:18 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: MODSSL: WIN32-apache 1.3.x (windows NT) problem of serving
concurrent https requests


Hi all,

Does anyone know something about the following
WIN32-apache-modssl and/or WIN32-apache problem as described below?

In short:
It seems that any WIN32-apache (I tried) has this problem:
They cannot display pages (I need mainly https:// but also tried
http://) with many images in a RELIABLE  manner.

That means if you SHIFT-RELOAD the page several times
(10x, 20x, 50x.), the apache process crashes once in a while and is
restarted after some time.
In this time the server is not accessable and images remain empty or the
page itself says "unable to load page"
I had this effekt on the following apache servers:
- WIN32-apache-mod_ssl 1.3.6
- WIN32-apache-mod_ssl 1.3.9
- WIN32-apache-mod_ssl 1.3.20
- WIN32-apache-mod_ssl 1.3.22
- IBM http server 1.3.19 - based on apache 1.3.20 (without mod_ssl - but
with own IBM-ssl-128)
I also tried cygwin-based apaches:
- cygwin apache 1.3.6 mod_ssl
- cygwin camp 1.3.20 mod_ssl
The cygwin-based show NOT this effect - but have other problems
(sporadic hangs of the cygwin-apache and/or cygwin-system) which do not
allow to use them.
The only RELIABLE SSL-web server on windows-nt I found yet is
"tinyssl" (also based on openssl) - it is solid as a rock - but it has
not the functionality I need (ProxyPass, RewriteRule, mod_jserv...).

The problem is closely associated with concurrent requests
(to load the images) to the server.
So it is a bug in the thread/process- sychronisation of WIN32-apache
versions and I think in the core-apache,
because apache crashes occur also if you redirect the image loading to
another SSL-server (with ProxyPass) and
also if you use http:// instead of http://..

I need to get a RELIABLE apache-based mod-ssl web server for windows NT
but havent found such a thing yet...

Do you know a RELIABLE (no hangs!, no crashes!) running
WIN32-apache-mod-
ssl installation anywhere?
Is there a solution for this problem?

Thanks in advance

Johannes

Here is a posting to mod_ssl which describes the crashes of WIN32-apache
1.3.20 in more detail:

 Subject:
       WIN32-apache 1.3.20 (windows NT) problem of serving concurrent
https requests
  Date:
       Wed, 21 Nov 2001 02:20:58 +0100
        From:
       [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Johannes Artur Bertscheit)
     Reply-To:
       [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Organization:
       JB Management & Consulting
   To:
       [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   CC:
       [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 Hi all,

 I use
 Apache_1.3.20-Mod_SSL_2.8.4-OpenSSL_0.9.6a-WIN32.zip
 from your contribution area
 (

http://www.modssl.org/contrib/Apache_1.3.20-Mod_SSL_2.8.4-OpenSSL_0.9.6a-
WIN32.zip

 )

 when serving SSL pages under this WIN32-apache 1.3.20 under windows NT
 e.g: html page with 20 images
 or html-frame with 1 image
 and I SHIFT-RELOAD these pages several times
 (with IE5.5 or netscape4.78 dont matters)
 (it depends on timing conditions if the crash will occur -
 so several tries - up to 10- may be neccessary)
 then I get the following Dr.Watson crashes:

  FAULT ->6ffa1522 8b5104           mov     edx,[ecx+0x4]
 ds:00dfea06=????????

  FAULT ->10007587 8b0491           mov     eax,[ecx+edx*4]
 ds:00000017=????????

 because if Apache.exe's are restarted automatically,
 the server continues to server after some delay and maybe
 anoher SHIFT-RELOAD may show all images/frames.

 I think its a problem of serving concurrent https requests
 (several images / several frames).
 Are there known problems in this area???
 How can the problem be fixed?
 I tried almost all configuration settings
(e.g. SSLSessionCache on/off, nokeepalive on/off...)
with no effect.

 Thanks in advance!

 Johannes


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