Hi Phil,

As far as I know, nothing that Rob mentioned is classified...especially
since he is not naming systems by name or address.  The fact that the DoD
uses certificates is no secret...there's been many writeups in the various
trade magazines regarding the DoD's push to PKI.

Dwight...

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Subject: Re: CRL Checking Uses Excessive Memory


I think the first thing you need to do is connect to this URL
from someplace that doesn't have any certs related to you
installed, like your local library:

https://www.hill.af.mil/main/index.html

I am not trying to be funny, I am just worried that either you
are going to get yourself into trouble by exposing configuration
info about .mil computers, or somebody else is going to get into
trouble while trying to help you.

Phil

Walls Rob W Contr 75 CS/SCBS wrote:
> I work for the DoD. We have about a dozen CA's with their own CRL files.
> Some of these are over 20M in size. When CRL checking is enabled in Apache
> (for Linux or Windows), memory use is excessive and httpd processes are
> killed by the OS (Linux) due to out of memory conditions and all the
memory
> swapping activity sends the proc utilization way up there and makes the
> server unresponsive. On Windows the CPU use just pegs at 100% (I have no
> idea what else is going on in there).
> CRL's are downloaded every day and openssl is used to make hash'd file
names
> (ssl.conf is using  SSLCARevocationPath). I don't currently restart apache
> after retrieving the new CRL files.
> The Linux machine runs redhat with dual 3ghz xeons and 2Gb ram. SSL works
> great, but as soon as CRLs are checked, apache starts to go south! I have
a
> 2Gb swap partition and have added another 2Gb swap file to at least keep
> things running, but it becomes so slow it might as well crash.
> Each httpd process goes from using about 14Mb of memory when not CRL
> checking to 250Mb when CRL checking is enabled!
> BTW: anywhere from 10 to 20 concurrent httpd processes are normal for that
> machine.
> 
> Any ideas on how to use large CRL's in Apache? 
> 
> Do I just need more memory?
> 
> If Apache can't use many large CRL files, would an OSCP solution side-step
> these problems? Any good ones out there?
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