On Thu, Apr 09, 2009 at 09:21:48AM -0700, Eric Wilhelm wrote:
> # from David Cantrell on Thursday 09 April 2009 05:10:
> >And we should care about people outside the community, because they
> >vastly outnumber those of us *in* the community. They and their
> >opinions are important because they do things like influence which
> >technologies their employers use, and consequently how many jobs there
> >are for us.
> I've never heard "we don't use Perl because it's hard to install", I've
> only heard "we can't find programmers".
Oh I've definitely heard "we don't use perl because the dependencies are
so fragile, you just look at them wrong and they don't want to play".
>From people who are both experienced sysadmins and who also write code in
other languages.
> The recommendations we make to new programmers are met with limited
> patience. Do you recommend that they use EU::MM on account of
> M::B "not working" on a system which hasn't been upgraded in 10 years?
No. But what about a system where the toolchain's not been touched for
three years? Those are awfully common, and three years is a fairly
common upgrade cycle in business, as that's quite often how long it
takes to fully depreciate the hardware. The other common cycle being
five years. So every three years, they get new hardware, the sysadmins
take the opportunity to put a new release of $OS on it, which comes with
a newer perl, and the developers rejoice at having an opportunity to
actually deploy the shiny new version of perl that they've been playing
with in their sandboxes.
That's why maybe in a coupla years I'll consider using it. That'll be
three (and a bit) years after 5.10 was released, and so when we can
expect a reasonable chunk of the deployed toolchain to be up to scratch.
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David Cantrell | Minister for Arbitrary Justice
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