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#136-1: Dik M, PA
It would be much more useful to the industry, if SPFA would help find a "CODE CONFORMING" fire barrier for attics, crawl spaces etc., than lecture on Fast and Loose applications of code. Something about 30 cents (a BD. FT.) installed, meeting All codes and spray applied. Many companies we talk to have a product that appears to be perfect BUT they haven't spent the money to test over foam. Maybe a small committee could do a evaluation of various products, report results to SPFA, who in turn will "acquire funding" from US.
#136-2 William B, Australia
we are in Australia but we are finding it hard to locate polyurea sprayers here so that we can start a chapter of the pda do u have any list of Australian contractors /suppliers ????or maybe they can put their hand up and lets us know at [EMAIL PROTECTED], it is for the better of the game that an association is need to inform clients and specifiers of the uses and properties of polyureas and train its own members,also to keep cowboys out that give the industry a bad name
#136-3 Ed M.
I am a writer for aviation magazines and one that I write for is a Test International, a new publication that just launched this month. I need any new processes you might have that would be used on aircraft, particularly commercial aviation.
#136-4 John C, Louisiana
I have a Foam Cat 2000 Graco machine and a Probler gun with a 01 tip. I use this setup to spray truck bed liners. My question is can I and how do I spray foam insulation using my equipment? And what are the different types of insulation?
#136-5 Murph Mahaffey, Glas-Craft
I like the new look of the Industry Forum!
#136-6 Mark W, South Carolina
I'm sick of all this garbage about covering foam with a "thermal Barrier". What the hell do you think foam is? If you are saying that anything that can be FORCED to burn should be covered with a FIREPROOF barrier, then you'd better get busy covering all those trusses and joists and plywood up there that are definitely NOT carrying a class one fire rating. This double standard for foam is coming directly from those who stand to lose business from it. Icynene is DIFFERENT. IT DOESN'T BURN ALONE. IT DOESN'T MELT. IT DOESN'T EMIT PHOSGENE. Does it smoke in a fire situation? Sure, so what?
Blaming foam in the attic for a house fire because it forces the foam to eventually burn is about as stupid as blaming foam seat cushions for burning when a gas tank ruptures and burns up a car. Get real, inspectors. You want us to cover up the only thing in the attic assembly that DOESN'T BURN!
As for the vaunted R rating system, IT IS TOTALLY BOGUS. The test is designed to make porous insulations APPEAR to perform better than they actually do. Measuring only conduction and ignoring convection and radiant to convective transfer, the test should have been thrown out for the industry lackey it is 20 years ago, along with that obsolete fiberglass
garbage they're still selling everybody. There's a reason they don't make refrigerators, freezers coolers & coffee cups out of fiberglass or cellulose. Think about it.
#136-7 Dirk Benthien, Forum Moderator
Thank you, Mark and Dik, for your statements above. I also feel that far too often individuals and companies are too complacent and quietly live with rules and regulations without trying to change them - even if everybody knows they do not make sense. We are all experts and representatives of this industry and should speak up and promote change!
#136-8 Martin S, Canada
Does anyone make a dispensing machine for crumb rubber / urethane blends ?
#136-9 Carole L, California re #135-8 Otto V, Germany
What are the answers? (Phase-out of 141b)
#136-10 Brian D, Canada
There has been a lot of talk about ceramic coatings. We are a distributor of such a coating. We have never professed an R-20. Reason = is there isn't an ASTM test available to measure coatings for R-value. We compare standardized insulation to Ceramic coatings via BTU loss calculations. Depending on the criteria we can equal 2 to 3 inches of standard insulation with an aluminum jacket. We have the data and the projects to prove it.
#136-11 CPI
We have inquiries from a number of people for used equipment - especially Gusmer H20/35, H2000, H2, GX-7 and Glas-Craft Probler. Please contact 805-552-9128.
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