But... what's the difference ? It sounds to me you still have a
template, just traded it to json interpreted in js (instead of a
different format interpreted by a different language). If you want
your templating system to be independent from the language, that's not
new territory either (think, say, XSLT).

On Jul 4, 11:18 pm, gert <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Jul 4, 2:00 am, Aaron Watters <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > I am sooooo against template languages of any kind sorry
>
> > Thanks for the comment.  Why?
> > It's kind of like being against higher level languages, prefering
> > to use only assembly language, in my opinion.
>
> > I really enjoy writing things like
>
> >     {{include "footnote"}} It's fun to use footnotes. {{/include}}
>
> > embedded in HTML files using WHIFF 
> > myself.http://aaron.oirt.rutgers.edu/myapp/docs/W1500.whyIsWhiffCool
>
> > How do you do this using embedded javascript?
>
> Believe it or not, every template language out there makes your life
> and defenatly from others, more complicated :)
> Let me explain.
> Most of the time your code looks like this
>
> server side
> -----------------
> calculate
> calculate
> calculate
> do layout if this
> do layout if that
> calculate
> return layout
>
> client side
> ---------------
> receive layout
> display
>
> What i recommend you do is this
>
> server side
> ---------------
> calculate
> calculate
> calculate
> calculate
> return data
>
> client side
> ----------------
> receive data
> generate layout
> generate layout
> generate layout
> display
>
> Why ?
> 1) You never ever have to change your server script ever again no
> matter what W3C decides or which mobile browser is going to be the
> next big thing.
> 2) You server code looks cleaner then the toilet of the white house.
> 3) You can ask other to do the layout for you and they don't have to
> know anything about your server, actually they don't even have to know
> anything about python.
>
> Let put it this way, if you are using a browser, i am sure i can
> transform raw data preferably json style into what ever layout you
> want using js.
> Exampleshttp://code.google.com/p/appwsgi/source/browse/trunkand open
> the plain xhtml file inside the www/user folder and notice not a
> single line of code in my wsgi or python files has anything not even
> the slightest thing to do with xhtml css or other browser stuff. Note
> that i do use firefox 3.5 :P
> Als notice this is pure js and it does not care if the data comes from
> php, python or whatever is running on the server.
>
> My conclusion over the years is, that python programmers suck at
> making websites, and photoshop artiest defenatly suck at python. So
> don't try to combine it, because it is never going to work the way you
> want other people, especially non python people to use it.
>
> I personally obay one rule, if the python project contains one line
> that has to do with html code, just start over :)
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