On 4/12/12, Graham Dumpleton <[email protected]> wrote:
> On 13 April 2012 06:06, Bill Freeman <[email protected]> wrote:
>> On 4/12/12, Krzysztof Jurkiewicz <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> Hello
>>> I have django + mod_wsgi + apache2 and virtualhost and it works great.
>>> I found WSGIPythonHome option but I cant put it in virtualhost but in
>>> global (quite pointless, because I want different djangos. So how do I
>>> pull this off to point at multiple pythons (I have on on virtualenv).
>>>
>>
>> If you build a mod_wsgi 4.x from the repository, you will get access to
>> a new feature, which is the ability to pas a "python-home=" option to
>> WSGIDaemonProcess.  I have used it successfully.  There are restrictions,
>> see Graham's comments in the recent discussion of the feature.  Most
>> significant is that all the virtual environments you are using must be
>> based on the same root python install.
>
> Because of needing to bring out a mod_wsgi 3.4 with Apache 2.4 support
> and new directive for hash seen randomisation, the python-home option
> may well get back ported as well. I still need to look at how much
> work it will be to also back port Python 3.2+ support. Problem is if I
> do the latter, it will immediately break installations using
> mod_python at same time as correct threading API usage which would be
> applied across Python 2.X code as well, conflicts with the incorrect
> usage that mod_python does and which mod_wsgi has had hacks in place
> to work around. The hacks will need to be removed. I am not too keen
> on breaking concurrent mod_python usage in a minor version update, but
> it may be time to break mod_python. In mod_wsgi 4.0 it will actually
> abort Apache startup with error message if you load both mod_python
> and mod_wsgi at the same time. Comments?
>
> Graham
>
Neither the company I work for nor I have used mod_python in a long
while.  If I recall correctly, it has been notated as unsupported for
a long time.

Is there really anything you can do with mod_python that you can't do
with mod_wsgi?

Sure, there may be folks with an ancient mod_python application that
they don't want to modify, but surely that is the correct circumstance
in which to force people to run multiple apache instances, rather than
for those running a bunch of apps all using mod_wsgi, all over the
same base python.

Minor releases are often not fully backward compatible.  For instance,
if you have an app that uses (a library that uses) "as" as a variable
name, then moving from python 2.6 to python 2.7 broke it.  Still, I
can see how becoming unable to be loaded at the same time as
mod_python seems like a more significant change.  I, too, am less
comfortable with that for a minor release, particularly if you haven't
gone a round or two with a deprecation warning.

But, particularly since there is the workaround of running two
apaches, I think that the benefit outweighs the cost.

Bill

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