I had only barely looked at the mod_wsgi-express stuff; I was in a bit of hurry 
when moving to mod_wsgi v4.  But i looked at the source code last night, so I 
might have to give this a try.


Charles Yeomans

> On Dec 16, 2014, at 8:33 PM, Graham Dumpleton <[email protected]> 
> wrote:
> 
> It is on a long TODO list to generate Apache configuration file snippets for 
> most basic of things where people don't want to use mod_wsgi-express from 
> init scripts and instead want to integrate into the existing Apache 
> configuration, even though they then loose out on the benefits of 
> mod_wsgi-express.
> 
> Right now all that is available is once you do a pip install mod_wsgi, you 
> can run:
> 
> $ mod_wsgi-express module-location
> /Users/graham/Projects/mod_wsgi/venv/lib/python2.7/site-packages/mod_wsgi-4.4.1-py2.7-macosx-10.8-intel.egg/mod_wsgi/server/mod_wsgi-py27.so
> 
> so you can find out where pip installed the .so file in case you want to 
> refer to it out of the Python installation when loading it into Apache. You 
> might be able to use that at least to know from where to copy the .so file.
> 
> Alternatively, you can run:
> 
> $ sudo mod_wsgi-express install-module
> LoadModule wsgi_module /usr/libexec/apache2/mod_wsgi-py27.so
> WSGIPythonHome /Users/graham/Projects/mod_wsgi/venv
> 
> This will install the .so file into your Apache modules directory for you.
> 
> It will also give you the two key lines to stick in the Apache configuration, 
> with the latter being what Python installation the module was compiled 
> against.
> 
> Down the track, for Django at least, I have been contemplating a 'httpdconf' 
> Django management command.
> 
> When this is run it would create and populate an 'apache' directory in your 
> Django project with a WSGI script file and Apache configuration files 
> snippets for loading and setting up the module, plus the specific snippets to 
> mount your Django application and any static file assets. These snippets 
> could be Include'd direct into the Apache configuration, copy pasted manually.
> 
> The reason for doing this as that so many people seem to still screw up the 
> configuration even when following the Django documentation about mod_wsgi.
> 
> The other thing on the TODO list is have mod_wsgi-express generate init.d 
> scripts for various Linux variants so that you can ignore the existing Apache 
> and just start mod_wsgi-express on OS startup.
> 
> If you are not using Apache for anything else this would be better than 
> relying on default Apache configuration which generally sucks for Python web 
> applications. Better to use my curated mod_wsgi-express configuration.
> 
> Graham
> 
> On 17/12/2014, at 11:44 AM, Charles Yeomans <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
>> I've used mod_wsgi for several years and had to install via a bash script 
>> (so that puppet could do it) to get current versions, but now one can 
>> install using pip.  The only issue I found was that the pip install does not 
>> create mod_wsgi.load or mod_wsgi_conf, but those were simple enough to 
>> supply myself.
>> 
>> 
>> Charles Yeomans
>> 
>> 
>>> On Dec 16, 2014, at 6:59 PM, Graham Dumpleton <[email protected]> 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> You will unfortunately not find a binary OS supplied Ubuntu 10.4 package 
>>> for mod_wsgi which is newer.
>>> 
>>> Your only choice would be to compile from source code.
>>> 
>>> Graham
>>> 
>>> On 17/12/2014, at 10:54 AM, Jennifer Mehl <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Thanks for this info. I’ll try a newer mod_wsgi.
>>>> 
>>>> It’s very odd to me that the app works fine in mod_wsgi/Apache with no SSL 
>>>> but parts become broken in certain browsers once SSL is enabled.
>>>> 
>>>> At any rate, thanks for the guidance and I’ll report back if I find a fix!
>>>> 
>>>> —Jennifer
>>>> 
>>>>> On Dec 16, 2014, at 3:46 PM, Graham Dumpleton 
>>>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> If you are using mod_wsgi 3.4 that could be a problem in itself.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Recent versions of Ubuntu as I understand it use Apache 2.4, but such an 
>>>>> old version of mod_wsgi may have issues on Apache 2.4. At the minimum 
>>>>> would need to have mod_wsgi 3.5 from memory as some Apache 2.4 fixes were 
>>>>> back ported to 3.5. It is unlikely they back ported those themselves to 
>>>>> 3.4 for 14.04.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Either way, mod_wsgi itself shouldn't be causing any problems with HTTPS 
>>>>> as it is Apache that deals with all that and mod_wsgi has nothing to do 
>>>>> with the handling of secure connections. When mod_wsgi sees a request 
>>>>> that came via HTTPS it sees it as being no different to a HTTP request 
>>>>> with the exception of what the wsgi.url_scheme attribute is set to. It is 
>>>>> therefore more likely to be an Apache configuration issue or issue with 
>>>>> the code of Apache itself.
>>>>> 
>>>>> FWIW, mod_wsgi 3.4 means that Ubuntu version is almost 20 versions 
>>>>> behind. Even Ubuntu 14.10 has only mod_wsgi 3.5. It is quite frustrating 
>>>>> that they haven't been bothered to update their packages to more recent 
>>>>> versions even if only for the most recent 14.10.
>>>>> 
>>>>> About the only thing I can suggest if it is readily reproducible, is to 
>>>>> use request logging such as described in:
>>>>> 
>>>>> http://code.google.com/p/modwsgi/wiki/DebuggingTechniques#Tracking_Request_and_Response
>>>>> 
>>>>> to see if when a request has issues, that the WSGI application actually 
>>>>> returned the requests properly.
>>>>> 
>>>>> If it isn't, then use something like:
>>>>> 
>>>>> http://code.google.com/p/modwsgi/wiki/DebuggingTechniques#Extracting_Python_Stack_Traces
>>>>> 
>>>>> to get out Python stack traces for where a request handler may be stuck.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Both can be fiddly so sounds like you aren't going to have time to do 
>>>>> that.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Graham
>>>>> 
>>>>> On 17/12/2014, at 10:04 AM, Jennifer Mehl <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> I’m on the latest for Ubuntu 14.04LTS - 2.4.7-1ubuntu4.1.  I have been 
>>>>>> using the updated mod_wsgi3.4 from Ubuntu. 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> At this point I was thinking about trying my Django application in a 
>>>>>> different WSGI server to see if I can narrow down if the problem is with 
>>>>>> the Django code or something with mod_wsgi.  I was thinking about uwsgi 
>>>>>> (trying to find something quick and easy to test) or nginx.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Again, the weird browser behavior I describe below only happens when 
>>>>>> using Apache/HTTPS, port 443, in mod_wsgi (not Apache/HTTP in mod_wsgi 
>>>>>> or the Django development server in port 80).
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I’m kind of at my wit’s end trying to narrow down *where* the problem is 
>>>>>> (if it’s something in the Django code, I only have one more day until my 
>>>>>> developer leaves for a few weeks for winter break…) Do you think there 
>>>>>> any debugging I can do by looking at the developer console in the 
>>>>>> affected browsers - for instance comparing the affected pages on a 
>>>>>> working port 80 vs the same pages on the non-working SSL/port 443 
>>>>>> connection?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> thank you,
>>>>>> Jennifer
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Dec 16, 2014, at 2:55 PM, Graham Dumpleton 
>>>>>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> One more question. What version of Apache are you using?
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> If you are stuck on a quite old Apache 2.2.X version that would be a 
>>>>>>> concern as there were various SSL related issues patched during the 
>>>>>>> life of Apache 2.2.X.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Graham
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On 16/12/2014, at 11:40 AM, Graham Dumpleton 
>>>>>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> I'll go through the description you gave me and see if can suggest 
>>>>>>>> anything, but first up, what version of mod_wsgi are you using?
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> If you are using mod_wsgi 4.4.0 make sure you update to 4.4.1. The 
>>>>>>>> newer version resolves a potential for process crashing introduced in 
>>>>>>>> 4.4.0.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Graham
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On 16/12/2014, at 11:33 AM, Jennifer Mehl <[email protected]> 
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Hi there,
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> I am backpedalling a bit from my previous attempt to chroot mod_wsgi 
>>>>>>>>> - instead, for now, just to get this Django application running, for 
>>>>>>>>> simplicity, I am going to start out with just running it as a daemon 
>>>>>>>>> as a restricted user.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> In doing the final testing of my application on various browsers, I 
>>>>>>>>> have noticed some strange problems.  
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> When I run Django/mod_wsgi/Apache on port 80 (same config as below, 
>>>>>>>>> minus the mod_ssl stuff)  or use the django development runserver 
>>>>>>>>> 0.0.0.0:80, and disable the following settings in settings.py 
>>>>>>>>> (#SESSION_COOKIE_SECURE = True #CSRF_COOKIE_SECURE = True) these 
>>>>>>>>> browsers work correctly in the app.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> However, when running Django application running through mod_wsgi and 
>>>>>>>>> HTTPS/port 443 in Apache, I see problems with both IE and Safari 
>>>>>>>>> browsers.  After login on Internet Explorer, page timeouts occur in 
>>>>>>>>> various locations, reporting "This page can't be displayed".  On 
>>>>>>>>> Safari, the app won't get past the secondary Duo MFA authentication 
>>>>>>>>> step, saying "Server unexpectedly dropped the connection." It is not 
>>>>>>>>> a consistent behavior - seems to happen more frequently if I click 
>>>>>>>>> quickly through links.   Sometimes if I wait long enough to click, it 
>>>>>>>>> might work momentarily, but then not again a moment later.  This 
>>>>>>>>> behavior does NOT happen using Chrome or Firefox browsers on any OS.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Apache config:
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> <IfModule mod_ssl.c>
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> <VirtualHost *:443>
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> ServerName **redacted**
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> #Django WSGI - Daemon
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>   WSGIScriptAlias / /var/www/transfergateway/myproject/apache/wsgi.py
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>   WSGIProcessGroup file-xfer 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>   WSGIDaemonProcess file-xfer user=mod_wsgi group=mod_wsgi 
>>>>>>>>> processes=2 threads=25 python-path=/var/www/transfergateway
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> <Directory /var/www/transfergateway/myproject/apache>
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> <Files wsgi.py>
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Order deny,allow
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Allow from all
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> </Files>
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> </Directory>
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Alias /robots.txt 
>>>>>>>>> /var/www/transfergateway/myproject/myapp/static/robots.txt
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Alias /favicon.ico 
>>>>>>>>> /var/www/transfergateway/myproject/myapp/static/favicon.ico
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> AliasMatch ^/([^/]*\.css) 
>>>>>>>>> /var/www/transfergateway/myproject/myapp/static/styles/$1
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Alias /media/ /var/www/transfergateway/myproject/myapp/media/
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Alias /static/ /var/www/transfergateway/myproject/myapp/static/
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> <Directory /var/www/transfergateway/myproject/myapp/static>
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Order deny,allow
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Allow from all
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> </Directory>
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> <Directory /var/www/transfergateway/myproject/myapp/media>
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Order deny,allow
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Allow from all
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> </Directory>
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> ErrorLog ${APACHE_LOG_DIR}/error.log
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> CustomLog ${APACHE_LOG_DIR}/access.log combined
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> SSLEngine on
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> SSLCertificateFile    /etc/ssl/certs/***
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> SSLCertificateKeyFile /etc/ssl/private/**
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> SSLCertificateChainFile /etc/ssl/certs/**
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> SSLCipherSuite HIGH:!aNULL:!MD5
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> </VirtualHost>
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> </IfModule>
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> So, I'm concluding that the HTTPS problem is one of two things: how I 
>>>>>>>>> am configuring mod_wsgi with HTTPS, or some issue inside the Django 
>>>>>>>>> code (but HTTPS works on some browsers with no issues, so I'm 
>>>>>>>>> stumped...)
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Is there anything special that I need to do in mod_wsgi or the Django 
>>>>>>>>> application itself, in order to make the application HTTPS only?  (I 
>>>>>>>>> am not a Python or Django developer, so I would be passing info on to 
>>>>>>>>> the actual application developer for resolution.)  Any ideas?
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> thank you,
>>>>>>>>> Jennifer
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 

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