Thanks, Graham! I swear I tried a variation on what you're suggesting, but 
I've just given it another go and have gotten the application logging 
working now, thanks!!

I did end up getting mod_wsgi-express working, but it was right fiddly to 
do, and would need a whole new suite of performance/memory/load testing, so 
I'm going to stick with the existing configuration for now.

I did notice as I was poking around that I'm getting this in the output 
(seems to be direct to stderr or stdout) when a mod_wsgi process handles 
its first request:

{ "time":"Mon Dec 17 15:57:36 2018", "function" : "[wsgi:info]" , "message" 
: "mod_wsgi (pid=12, process='', application='172.17.0.2:8000|'): Loading 
Python script file '/app/main/wsgi.py'.", "referer" : "-" }
{"asctime": "2018-12-17 15:57:37,498", "levelname": "INFO", "message": "New 
Relic Python Agent (4.4.1.104)"}
{"asctime": "2018-12-17 15:57:37,788", "levelname": "INFO", "message": 
"INFO MESSAGE"}
{"asctime": "2018-12-17 15:57:37,788", "levelname": "ERROR", "message": 
"ERROR MESSAGE"}
  File "setup.py", line 38
    f.write(f'version = "{version}"\n')
                                     ^
SyntaxError: invalid syntax
{ "time":"Mon Dec 17 15:57:38 2018", "function" : "[deflate:debug]" , 
"message" : "AH01384: Zlib: Compressed 29570 to 4102 : URL 
/trs-menu/menu/", "referer" : "-" }
{ "time":"2018-12-17T15:57:36.366Z", "request":"/trs-menu/menu/", 
"query":"", "method":"GET", "status":"200" }

That looks like what you get if you try to hand source with an f-string in 
it to Python 2.7...
I installed mod_wsgi with Python 3.6, though Python 2.7 is installed in the 
image too (as a dependency of the node.js programming language deb, no 
kidding).
The application runs fine though (it's definitely a Python 3.6+ application 
too).


On Monday, December 17, 2018 at 3:55:13 PM UTC+11, Graham Dumpleton wrote:
>
> Lets solve your Django logging issue and put aside the issue of moving to 
> mod_wsgi-express for now.
>
> For a process other that PID 1 to log director the container 
> stdout/stderr, it can use:
>
>     /proc/1/fd/1
>     /proc/1/fd/2
>
> Your Django logging configuration, to have it avoid the Apache error 
> logging mechanism would thus be something like:
>
> LOGGING = {
>     'version': 1,
>     'disable_existing_loggers': False,
>     'handlers': {
>         'file': {
>             'class': 'logging.FileHandler',
>             'filename': '/proc/1/fd/1',
>         },
>     },
>     'loggers': {
>         'django': {
>             'handlers': ['file'],
>             'level': 'INFO',
>         },
>     },
> }
>
>
> So get that working with your existing images. We can then see later 
> whether is worthwhile looking at mod_wsgi-express.
>
> What you might at least get out of mod_wsgi-express is some hints as to 
> possible better configuration for working in a container. This is because 
> mod_wsgi-express generates a complete Apache configuration for you. You 
> don't just point it at the existing Apache configuration directories/server 
> root as you are. You then just add snippets for additional configuration 
> not handled by mod_wsgi-express. Setting up mod_kerb may be a bit fiddly to 
> add as an extra, thus why keeping what you are doing for now and just 
> configuring Django logging may well be better approach.
>
> On 17 Dec 2018, at 1:20 pm, [email protected] <javascript:> wrote:
>
> Hi folks,
>
> TL;DR my app doesn't work because "Embedded mode of mod_wsgi disabled by 
> runtime configuration" and I don't know why...
>
> -- Background
>  
> I've got an apache2/mod_wsgi docker environment set up for multiple 
> (30-ish) microservices to migrate to, but we've hit a major sticking point: 
> these docker containers all run in kubernetes, and have these requirements:
>
> - the service must run as PID 1, and
> - all logging must go to stdout/stderr
> - all logging must be in JSON format for ingest by ELK
>
> I've configured apache to sent ErrorLog and AccessLog to stdout, no 
> problems. I've also configured them to log JSON (not pretty, but it works). 
> The application (Django) is also configured to log JSON, and that's where 
> the problem comes in: apache captures *all* output from the Django app and 
> formats it into the ErrorLog, producing invalid JSON.
>
> I can't seem to get Django to circumvent apache's output capture. Getting 
> Django to log directly to /dev/stdout doesn't work.
>
> Graham suggested on twitter I should use mod_wsgi-express to solve my 
> logging problems, so the below is my current state of trying to get it 
> working.
>
> Our apache configuration is not trivial (amongst other things it includes 
> mod_kerb). I've developed the docker image using Debian slim (based off 
> existing work folks here have done with mod_kerb and other components) and 
> have followed the standard Debian apache configuration patterns. Through 
> benchmarking and load testing we've configured our servers and threads to 
> suit a particular memory usage model. So switching to mod_wsgi-express has 
> been ... challenging. I'm struggling to find documentation for 
> mod_wsgi-express - the PyPI page says docs are at www.modwsgi.org but 
> that says the docs are on PyPI. The `start-server --help` is helping though 
> I'm not entirely sure what the difference between setup-server and 
> start-server is (or if I even should care).
>
> -- Where I'm stuck
>
> So far I've got this command line:
>
>     mod_wsgi-express start-server --include-file /etc/apache2/apache2.conf 
> --server-root /etc/apache2 /app/main/wsgi.py
>
> My configuration is used \o/ though we configure StartServers and 
> ThreadsPerChild but those seem to be trumped by the --processes and 
> --threads command line options. Is there something I've missed here?
>
> That niggle aside, the application doesn't run. I get "Embedded mode of 
> mod_wsgi disabled by runtime configuration: /app/main/wsgi.py" I think it's 
> related to mod_wsgi "daemon" mode, but I can't see any mod_wsgi-express 
> option related to that. My wsgi.py is very simple:
>
> from django.core.wsgi import get_wsgi_application
>
>
> def application(env, start_response):
>
>     return get_wsgi_application()(env, start_response)
>
>
> My mod_wsgi-related apache configuration is:
>
> WSGIScriptAlias / /app/main/wsgi.py
>
> WSGIPythonHome /venv
>
> WSGIPythonPath /app
>
>
> So I'm not sure where to go from here...
>
>
> Thanks,
>
>      Richard
>
>
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