Addendum

I remember now, my first car had a failing thrust bearing. Made a dreadful
screeching noise when hot, but never failed to operate. 

Eventually replaced the whole clutch as I was sick of the noise and
convinced it would all fall to bits.
rgds Martyn 



 

From: Martyn J Culling [mailto:[email protected]] 
Sent: 22 July 2012 09:24
To: mogtalk2
Subject: Re: [mogtalk2] Thrust bearing noise?

 

Adrian 

I know you said thrust bearing - and I replied in that vein but actually now
I think about it, my failure was a pilot bearing. But both thrust and pilot
bearings are both inside the clutch and are both operating when you press
the clutch pedal and failure of either is a similar repair job.  

My bearing was wreaked. The rollers had made a bid for freedom and jammed
the gearbox shaft to the crank.  I was shown some of bits by the garage; I
think they thought I'd find the tale hard to believe!

Do you know a good mechanic? The first sensible step is asking the opinion
of someone who a) has good hearing and b) has plenty of experience of that
engine. 

I've got a feeling the problem may not be the pilot or the thrust bearing at
all, may even not be that significant, but I'd definitely be looking for a
good second opinion from a good mechanic. 

Mileage is not really a clue. As rule, both pilot and thrust bearings last a
good long time and while failure is uncommon, a failure at 3000 miles as I
had, can occur. 

While I can't remember the exact amounts, the cost of my bearing was about
80p, and the labour £80 (it was years ago...).  

For those who are uncertain of what bearing is what, the pilot bearing is
the bearing between the gearbox and the crank - the one you have fun
engaging when you put a clutch back together and a thrust bearing is the
bearing that presses on the clutch diaphragm to release the clutch. 

rgds Martyn 


On Jul 21 2012, Adrian Slade wrote: 

Hi Martyn 

Was the one piece crank with main shaft due to the bearing failing and then
no clutch? 

Mine is very odd as it was a knock, knock and then nothing, and as soon as I
reversed no noise at all, and since then having driven 20 miles it is still
silent. I am a little worried by this. The car has only done 24k miles and
the clutch feels fine, the only thing I can think of is the bearing has
dried out at some point and is starting to fail. What do you think?

Regards,

Adrian

Sent from my iPad

On 21 Jul 2012, at 16:15, Martyn J Culling wrote:

> Adrian
> 
> From personal experience - be careful. My crossflow thrust bearing made a
noise, and less than 1000 miles late I had a one piece crank and gearbox
main shaft.
> 
> Over 100 miles from home, on a motorway, on a bank holiday Saturday, I
pulled into a service station and could not change gear. RAC man managed to
find a garage to fix it, and really, the price for a big job on a Saturday
was a bargain. Plus I could carry on and do another 300 miles and go on my
holiday - just made arrival many hours late.
> 
> rgds Martyn 
> 
> On Jul 21 2012, Adrian Slade wrote: 
> 
> Hi 
> 
> Just got trusty Rosie (plus 8) out for a run to Sidmouth with she who must
be obeyed in passenger seat. Got 200 yards and then funny nocking noise,
initially I thought oh no a stuck valve, the I noticed clutch depressed a no
noise, ah ah! 
> 
> So I stuck it into reverse moved back a bit to turn around an then into
1st and the noise had gone. So I moved forward and back and still no noise,
so great. We continued on our journey at up to 60 and all was fine there and
back.
> 
> So now I am home this is praying on my mind a bit, I cannot detect any
noise from the gearbox, or the nocking noise, so my initial thought is a
small stone might have got into the clutch workings am putting it into
reverse freed it out (not sure if there is external access holes for this to
happen). 
> 
> Has anyone else experienced anything similar, or is it a sign of a failure
looming possibly?
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Adrian
> 
> Sent from my iPad
> 
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