Adrian, Dave et al My Roadster (Nov 2006) has bearings under the springs from new. Now the Factory fit locating rings at the bottom of the king pins with screwed rods attached to easily set up or vary king-pin inclination.
Brian On Tue, Jul 31, 2012 at 5:24 PM, Adrian Slade <[email protected]> wrote: > Well, Brian, I will say this, mine us on harder front springs now and an > inch lower, the basic set up is the same really with the exception of > roller bearings under the main springs, which I now believe are fitted > factory standard anyway. Prior to this the main issue was floaty feel on > undulating roads at speed, the prime culprit for this being knackered > shockers. I wanted a stiffer feel as I felt the 110lbs springs were too > weak fir the control i wanted, and those I spoke to agreed at the time, > hence the stiffening up front by me. I also adjusted the camber up front to > 2/3 degree neg., which in my experience on other cars is a must, another > factory add on in recent years. > > I am sure that for some it would be a step too far and maybe as years > advance and comfort becomes more of a priority I will revert back to a > softer set up. > > I think you are not far from the truth, the factory is trying to sell cars > that appeal to many, apart from the short run special builds, so I suspect > that whilst they could easily build a Morgan with exceptional road holding, > the result would be a harsher less compromising ride. Which for the > majority would not appeal, performance and handling is not everyone's bag. > > I am yet to be convinced that unloading the bottom springs by cutting down > is the right approach. Unless an allowance it is taken into account to > ensure that a similar lb rate is the end result. So I would probably go for > shorter bottom springs not loaded when the car is at rest with a 275lb rate > as now. So on hard cornering the outside loaded wheel would have the same > forces as now. > > If only it was cheap and easy to try a combination of set ups, or if > someone had documented different ones so we could more easily choose the > most appropriate one to each of us. > > Regards > > Adrian > > On 31 Jul 2012, at 17:26, Brian Cowell <[email protected]> wrote: > > Does anyone, apart from me, think that the Factory have got the IFS > about right? > > Brian of SpotMog > > On Tue, Jul 31, 2012 at 4:02 PM, Richard Jones < > [email protected]> wrote: > >> Hi Tim >> If I had engaged brain rather than just think headlights, would have >> appreciated that. >> Had not considered the anti roll (bar replacement) function before - do >> rebound/'anti roll springs' also come in different weights? - had not >> considered this before - brings a whole new dimension and makes so much >> sense of the original design parameters, although withought decent dampers >> (not shock absorbers) the oscilation (wheel hop) of an uncontrolled rebound >> spring working against main spring on long corners(e.g roundabouts) is not >> pleasant as it isn't at 60 mph on a bumpy motorway. >> Richard M800RGN+8 >> >> *From:* Tim Harris <[email protected]> >> *To:* mogtalk2 <[email protected]> >> *Sent:* Tuesday, 31 July 2012, 15:58 >> *Subject:* [mogtalk2] Re: [mogtalk2] Re: [mogtalk2] Re: [mogtalk2] Re: >> [mogtalk2] Re: [mogtalk2] Need some advice please….New Morgan >> ** >> The rebound spring is not a bump stop, it has a vital function of adding >> roll stiffness during cornering. In a straight line, the rebound spring >> should be free, the main spring thus having its normal rate unaffected by >> the rebound spring. >> >> A rising rate spring in this situation is thus of enormous advantage as >> it allows an initial soft rate which can cope with small bumps and ripple, >> but on larger deflections hardening up progressively to prevent the >> suspension bottoming out and crashing over big bumps. >> >> When you pitch the car into a corner, the outer main spring tends to top >> out and the rebound spring then comes into play, adding its rate to the >> main spring. to provide additional stiffness and preventing the car from >> rolling, This effect is what gives Morgans their very flat cornering style. >> >> Tim** ** >> On 31 July 2012 15:22, Richard Jones <[email protected]>wrote: >> ** >> >> Tim >> Do you know if the new rising rate spring retains the a rebound spring >> with the function of tensioning the main spring or effectively relegates it >> to the role of a bump stop? >> Richard M800RGN+8 >> >> *From:* Tim Harris <[email protected]>** *To:* mogtalk2 < >> [email protected]> ** >> *Sent:* Tuesday, 31 July 2012, 14:41 >> *Subject:* [mogtalk2] Re: [mogtalk2] Re: [mogtalk2] Re: [mogtalk2] Need >> some advice please….New Morgan >> ** >> I believe the new springs and shock absorbers will be available to >> purchase as a kit from your dealer - I believe that Uncle Melvyn will also >> be stocking them. >> >> Tim**** >> On 31 July 2012 14:37, Richard Jones <[email protected]>wrote: >> ** >> >> Rising rate springs that maintain static ride height sound my perfect >> solution. I don't want to just shorten my rebound springs as that increases >> ride height and I have no additional headlamp adjusment and am marginal on >> MOTs as it is. Have a buffer of a couple of years before my front >> suspension needs an overhaul, so have the luxury of time to consider >> suspension upgrades - apart from I need accommodate the remaining expensive >> stuff before spending is curbed by SWMBO and opting out of gainful >> employment. However if Morgan don't do it then there are small specialist >> spring companies out there that will make you a set of springs to your >> requirements. >> Richard M800RGN+8 >> >> *From:* Tim Harris <[email protected]> >> *To:* mogtalk2 <[email protected]> >> *Sent:* Tuesday, 31 July 2012, 7:55 >> *Subject:* [mogtalk2] Re: [mogtalk2] Need some advice please….New Morgan >> ** >> Hi Terry, and welcome to the world of Morganeering! Morgan are in the >> process of introducing rising rate springs for the front suspension of the >> trad cars, this vastly increases ride comfort. I think it's going to be >> available on all the cars, so it's probably best to check with your dealer. >> >> Tim**** >> On 30 July 2012 21:20, Terry Holland <[email protected]>wrote: >> ** >> >> **Hi Everyone,** **Not sure that I'm in the right place, but I'm >> thinking of buying a Morgan and am looking for a bit of advice from an >> impartial source.** **I've just sold my Caterham R500 - I got really fed >> up with the ridiculous performance, uncomfortable ride and strapping myself >> into a 4-point-harness [I'm not getting any younger or lighter!!].** **I'm >> looking for the most comfortable ride possible [especially when cruising at >> around 70 mph] and for something that will age gracefully with me!!** **I >> would really appreciate your thoughts on the most appropriate model for me >> - the obvious options seem to be between the 4/4 and the Plus 4.** **Any >> help would be appreciated.** **Terry Holland. >> >> ------------------------------------------- View posts on The Mail Archive http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ [http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/] Modify Your Subscription: https://www.listbox.com/member/?member_id=22459785&id_secret=22459785-4a39ddf8 Powered by Listbox: http://www.listbox.com
