I was just there to visit my sister a couple of weeks ago. It is a fine and 
very impressive institution. Have a Vernors on me!
Paul,Evanston


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 From: jeffrey smith <[email protected]>
To: mogtalk2 <[email protected]> 
Sent: Sunday, August 12, 2012 12:49 PM
Subject: Re: [mogtalk2] Why? And GTM frolics & news from the Motor City
 

 
Likewise....both my kids born at Beaumont in Royal 
Oak.
 
-Jeff S
Plano TX
----- Original Message ----- 
>From: Paul  Helman 
>To: mogtalk2 
>Sent: Sunday, August 12, 2012 10:52  AM
>Subject: Re: [mogtalk2] Why? And GTM  frolics & news from the Motor City
>
>
>I am from Detroit (assuming you were referencing that)and found  
>congratulations. Was she at Beaumont?
>Paul,Evanston( I was just speaking to Gordon Lisamore who reinforced his  fram 
>with fabricated steel "fish plate" and high strength aviation screws.  This 
>was done in the 90's I believe and has stood the test of time and use out  in 
>Northern California) His is a plus four quatro posto from 1960)
>
>Sent 
  from my iPad
>
>On Aug 11, 2012, at 3:45 AM, Brian Cowell <[email protected]>  wrote:
>
>
>Hear hear.
>> 
>>Brian of SpotMog
>>
>>
>>On Sat, Aug 11, 2012 at 8:33 AM, Mike Bailey <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>Congrats to you and your daughter  Owen
>>>best
>>>Mike
>>>Solihull
>>>
>>>________________________________
>>>
>>>From: 
      Owen Jenkins [mailto:[email protected]]
>>>Sent: Fri 10/08/2012 
      21:36
>>>To: mogtalk2
>>>Subject: Re: [mogtalk2] Why? And GTM frolics 
      & news from the Motor City
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>Richard,
>>>
>>>Aluminium 
      plate bolted to a steel chassis will rot and drop out, unless 
      you
>>>insulate it, in which case you can expect crevice corrosion. The 
      marine ply
>>>in my 24-year old 4 seater may be stained and discoloured, 
      but it is not
>>>rotten. Ally is also noisy and will dent and puncture, 
      knowing the way you
>>>treat cars. Tools needed for replacement with 
      plywood: saw, screwdriver and
>>>spanner. Conclusion - marine ply is 
      superior.
>>>
>>>Fuel tank on planks: they are rigid, energy absorbing and 
      offer some
>>>cushioning effect and noise damping. The chassis flexes. If 
      you fix the tank
>>>to it rigidly, you'll get fatigue cracks in the tank. 
      Tools needed for
>>>replacement of planks: saw, hammer and spanner. 
      Conclusion - wooden planks
>>>are superior.
>>>
>>>In both my cars the 
      battery is under the bonnet and always has been. Most
>>>people who have 
      struggled with batteries at the back seem to think that it's
>>>a lousy 
      place for a battery. It's probably a lousy place for a fuel 
      pump
>>>too.
>>>
>>>You may remember that the earliest +8s had a steel 
      floor which rusted so
>>>fast that they were replaced with plywood 
      PDQ.
>>>
>>>Next?
>>>
>>>Meanwhile, news from the GTM. Yesterday was 
      another eventful day. A Shelby
>>>Cobra (a real one) suffered expensive 
      gearbox problems
>>>(clunk-graunch-clank-bang-bang-bang-bang-bang 
      type).
>>>
>>>The starter motor on my 4/4 stuck in the engaged position. 
      With so much
>>>noise on the circuit, I could not figure out what this 
      awful noise was. I
>>>pulled off and into the paddock. When I turned off 
      the engine, it kept on
>>>making a lot of noise: battery reading 11 volts 
      and dropping? Yes, the fan's
>>>on as it's awfully hot (Ferrari screams 
      past). Blimey! Timing belt cover is
>>>vibrating. The engine's still 
      turning over! Ah! I now have an eco-electric
>>>car that won't stop. 
      Disconnect battery. Let it cool down. Pray hard.
>>>
>>>Once cool, the 
      Bendix did drop out, however, there's not enough juice in the
>>>battery 
      to get it going. Bump start boys! Didn't work - no spark.
>>>
>>>Jump 
      start! So Bill drove up his 1930 Austin Seven, newly converted to 
      12
>>>volt electrics and we tried jump starting it. No joy. So we came 
      home with
>>>the aid of Morgan Rescue. The car's now in the local Ford 
      garage here in
>>>Aboyne. Prayers are being said by all. I shall be taking 
      the +8 to the
>>>Historic Wheels gathering on Sunday. Of course you need 
      two Morgans. I've
>>>just proved it.
>>>
>>>Further news: from the Motor 
      City: my daughter gave birth to a 6lb. 13 oz.
>>>daughter Olive Marie two 
      hours ago. Mother and child doing OK, by the look
>>>of the pictures. Dad 
      has a silly grin on his face. Grandmother is now
>>>worrying about 
      daughter feeding child.
>>>
>>>Cheers,
>>>Owen.
>>>
>>>----- Original 
      Message -----
>>>From: "Richard L Smith" <[email protected]>
>>>To: 
      "mogtalk2" <[email protected]>
>>>Sent: 
      Friday, August 10, 2012 12:52 PM
>>>Subject: [mogtalk2] 
      Why?
>>>
>>>
>>>> The more I get to know my Mog (by taking it to bits) 
      the more I ask "why"
>>>>
>>>> Why are the floorboards wood, when 
      they could be aluminium plate? (
>>>> Why is the fuel tank mounted on 
      planks instead of direct to the chassis?
>>>> Or onto another ali 
      plate?
>>>> Why is the fuel pump mounted on a bit of thin plate when it 
      could be
>>>> mounted on the same deck as the battery?
>>>>
>>>> 
      OK, so the answer is 'because they have always been like that', but 
      when
>>>> others rebuild their cars, do they stick to tradition, or do 
      they improve?
>>>> Assuming, of course, that replacing plywood with ali 
      is an improvement.
>>>>
>>>> Or am I blaspheming?
>>>>
>>>> 
      Richard S
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