Hi Martin, et al

> The actual query timing should be captured
> and returned by the back-end itself.

That is done already, indeed, in XQuery. It provides even a breakup in
Trans+Shred+Query+Update/Print.

But it is also interesting to see the communication time between mclient and
Mserver. That you get by doing Timer-SUM(servertime). By including client think
time in interactive mode, this insight is missing now. I recall that in previous
versions of MapiClient, this was not an issue; so when I noticed it, I thought
it was a bug.

> Empty lines are empty requests to the server
> and mclient does not perform any analysis.
> Skipping empty lines is not easy, unless you
> bring in language semantics.
> I.e. just ignoring lines with blancs may not be appropriate.

In case of XQuery, the mclient does not send the empty lines to the server; it
always parses through intil a CTRL-D or <> is encountered. This is the existing
state of affairs, and I do not propose to change that.

> And the timing illustrates that indeed
> an empty request was handled.

I do not understand the above.

The question I posed is whether in interactive mode, for XQuery (because it may
not be useful for other languages), we could make the timing more accurate by
resetting the time counter just before the query is sent. For XQuery that would
give the perfect insight in communication time. Knowing about the communication
time is informative, and recall that this cannot be done server-side.

Another option is to exclude the in my eyes now confusing Timer functionality
for all languages in interactive mode.

Peter



> -----Original Message-----
> From: Martin Kersten [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: Friday, December 21, 2007 1:15 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [email protected]
> Subject: Re: [Monetdb-developers] [Monetdb-checkins] 
> clients/src/mapiclientMapiClient.mx, Clients_1-20, 1.88.2.4, 1.88.2.5
> 
> 
> Peter Boncz wrote:
> > Hi Niels,
> > 
> >> The timing was/is meant for overall query performance, ie 
> sending query + 
> >> query execution + receiving the result (or part of it) in 
> non interactive
> > setups.
> > 
> > ok, clear.  
> > 
> > So, would people agree then that in *interactive* mclient 
> mode, timing only the
> > query would be an improvement of the functionality?
> > 
> > best,
> > 
> > Peter
> The actual query timing should be captured
> and returned by the back-end itself.
> 
> Empty lines are empty requests to the server
> and mclient does not perform any analysis.
> Skipping empty lines is not easy, unless you
> bring in language semantics.
> I.e. just ignoring lines with blancs may not be appropriate.
> 
> And the timing illustrates that indeed
> an empty request was handled.
> So keep mclient simple.
> 
> 


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