On Mon, 15 Oct 2007 12:51:47 -0400
"Evan Weaver" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Ah, no, they are only marked operational until the retry timeout is
> elapsed. So I guess if you had extremely small timeouts in Apache and
> Mongrel both it would work ok.
> 
> Someone else respond, because clearly I don't know what I'm talking about. :)

I'm confused, isn't the point of a balancer that it tries all available 
backends multiple times before giving up?  If m_p_b is aborting on the first 
accept that's denied then it's broken.  It should try every one, and possibly 
twice or three times before giving up.  Otherwise it's not really a "balancer", 
but more of a "robinder".

Also, the proposed solution probably won't work.  If my crufty late night brain 
is right, this would mean that the backend will attempt a connect to a 
"sleeping" mongrel and either have to wait until the TCP timeout or just get 
blocked.  Eventually you're back at the same problem that you have tons of 
requests piling up, they're just piled up in the OS tcp stack where no useful 
work can be done.  At least piling them in mongrel means some IO is getting 
processed.

And, it sounds like nobody is actually trying these proposed solutions.  Anyone 
got some metrics?  Tried Lucas Carlson's Dr. Proxy yet?  Other solutions?  
Evented mongrel?

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