Amen! To that. I love vim. I use it for all my coding needs; however, m$
people are going to have a hard time figuring out how to save their code.
:w
is not as intuitive as a few mouse clicks
;-)
Jonathan Stowe wrote:
On Wed, 2004-09-29 at 15:14, Max Metral wrote:
I'd have to say Mono is not ready to compete yet, but only to complement.
The development environments just don't seem to be there yet, mainly the
extreme difficulty involved in getting even a simple debugger. Compared
with the relative simplicity and power of VS2003, it still is much better to
author in VS and run on Mono.
But the development environment *is* there as far as some people would
be concerned, vim has come with C# syntax highlighting and indenting
rules for a while now and quite frankly that is more than some people
need. The development environment isn't the language. The language
(that is the compiler, the runtime environment and the libraries) is a
tool, just as the editor you might prepare the source code in is.
I guess this divergence of viewpoints is an amusing consequence of the
strange nexus around mono - on the one hand those coming from the MS
side and used to the monolithic application and on the other those
coming from the more tools oriented approach that arises in the Unix
world.
That is already a great thing, so it's not a knock on Mono or peoples'
efforts, but there's still work to be done.
But probably by others than the core mono developers. That's the funny
thing about open source projects - people tend to concentrate on the
things that they think are important. I generally find that if one
disagrees with those priorities then the best way to sort it out is by
supplying some code oneself.
/J\
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Subject: Re: [Mono-list] Is Mono ready to compete with MS .NET in
realbusiness?
Hi,
Mono 1.0 was shipped awhile ago, and I'm really excited
about that... but now the natural question is:
"Is Mono ready to compete with MS .NET in real business?"
Depends on the context. For winforms, no. 1.2 will have that and it
should rock.
... and one more question is
"Will Novell provide support, documentation, etc.?"
"If yes, by when?"
monodoc already has the documentation. As C# is already a standardised
language, whatever is in the ECMA standard or the MS documentation
should follow.
Behind MS .NET there is a huge development team,
support, documentation, and continuity... and I
think Novell should offer the same, but till now
I don't see anything in that way.
There is with Mono. The big difference is that (I would guess) the
majority of those working on Mono aren't on the Novell payroll - it's
the biggest difference between Open and Closed source. Take OpenOffice,
there are well over 200 people actively working on it, yet only about 15
work for Sun!
TTFN
Paul
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