uncool Atsushi .... you probably want to try and use more tack in your correspondence
Alex wasn't deserving of such a tirade, who pissed in your cornflakes this morning anyways? -tl On Sun, 2006-11-05 at 09:34 +0900, Atsushi Eno wrote: > Alexandru Nedelcu wrote: > > Hi, > > > > I always respected Miguel de Icaza's judgment and he always has a good > > and sane point of view. > > I am a little troubled about the recent announcement, about the > > Novell/Microsoft agreement. > > Obviously you don't appreciate much from his posts before, as it is > very unlikely that you could understand them. > > > Didn't Miguel de Icaza assured us that Mono was safe, that there are no > > known patents that Mono infringes, that .NET is an ECMA > > standard, that even if Mono infringes on some patents then the Open > > Inventions Network will protect it ? > > In objective perspective, he did along with the context above. > In subjective perspective, Miguel never assured idiots like you that. > In that context, he just assured those who understand him so well. > > > Didn't Miguel said that Novell conducted a whole investigation on > > Microsoft owned patents and no infringed patents where found ? > > No he didn't did. If you object, showed the exact evidence. > > > And Novell is the owner of the Unix copyrights (I am no lawyer, so > > please correct me if I am wrong) ... and Novell just > > admitted that GNU/Linux has pieces that infringe on Microsoft's > > intellectual property ? > > You want to conceive us like your Microsoft that Linux infringes > MS patents, but Novell never said Linux infringes MS patents. > > On the other hand, no one assured that Linux infringes or will > infringe others' patents (that's ok; if someone blames patent > infringement, then he or she must *first* point the exact patents > out). But that does not mean Linux is always safe. > > As Miguel has always been pointing out, no software in the world > is safe in this context. > > If someone says that if there is no assurance on a technology > we should never push it, then what happens to W3C. > > > True or not true ... there are many companies that might stand up and > > demand the same royalties that Microsoft is asking. > > The solution is to fight the whole software patents system, not getting > > around it by a minor deal with the devil himself. > > Some economists and legal scholars has been successful to weaken > software patents by writing evident papers asserting that software > patents are rather harmful. I also wrote some legal analysis on > software patents in the context of Japanese legal academic argument > and sent them to the government. > > Some other people, like Bill Gates, claimed that US patent system > should not grant too many patents. > > None of idiots like you made it successful. You never fight software > patents in reality. > > > What if companies like IBM or Oracle or Apple take a stand and demand > > the same thing ? > > You should read Miguel's posts 100x again and understand what OIN is. > > > Miguel says in his blog something like: > > > > "So today we have secured a peace of mind for Novell customers that > > might have been worried about possible patent infringements open source > > deployments" > > > > But doesn't anyone at Novell notice that the REST of the open-source > > landscape is now in a greater danger than before ? > > Huh? Nothing has changed in non-mono land in this context. > > Unlike idiots like you, Microsoft and Novell know that the partnership > will expire at 2012. (as a sane person) I see no reason to endanger > their own businesses. > > > What is happening ? > > I already invested in Mono, I also switched to Gnome the whole network > > that I am managing, Gnome which is tainted with > > Novell's products. > > I am not the only one wondering: > > http://www.groklaw.net/article.php?story=20061103073628401 > > You are not the only one idiot wondering, but you are the only idiot > who tries to throw your shit to others. Let's wait for your > graduation from junior high school and post again. > > Atsushi Eno > _______________________________________________ > Mono-list maillist - Mono-list@lists.ximian.com > http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/mono-list > _______________________________________________ Mono-list maillist - Mono-list@lists.ximian.com http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/mono-list