as a user, my self-interest wants monotone to be stable and bulletproof above all else.
so if this issue distracts from that...
RS
On 6/13/06, Graydon Hoare <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Nathaniel Smith wrote:
> We all definitely agree that (0) is fine, and that (6) is not.
> Therefore, we probably each have some first number that we think would
> be unacceptable. When you say "Don't do it", do you mean that for
> you, the line of acceptability falls between (0) and (1), (1) is
> already too much, or, can you expand on where exactly you think the
> line is?
I think that (1) is too far. I'd like to stick to surveys. Maybe surveys
plus a line asking for a voluntary dump of "mtn db info" and your
--full-version string. Maybe a command like "mtn db profile" that runs a
loopback file:// sync with a bunch of internal scoped timers and
counters, and some deeper analysis of the db structure.
I have two lines of reasoning here.
First, I fear setting up any sort of subconscious association between
our tool and privacy invasion. People believe the first and/or worst
rumor they hear. That's not about reasoning, it's about avoiding
irrational rumors and reputations.
Second, I think that it would be hard to implement properly:
- Get the set of data to record just right
- Get the sending-to-us system just right
- Get the interacting-with-user system just right
This will distract a lot of attention from other tasks; each of them is
a sort of mother-of-all-bikeshed topic.
Don't get me wrong: I'd love to see trustworthy, privacy-blinded,
full-system profiling of some sort enabled on computers -- in general --
so that the system-makers could see all the annoyances they unwittingly
foist on users. But I don't think we're there yet, and I don't really
want our tool going down the road exploring it.
-graydon
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