Thanks to Giles and Dick for their input on locating a winch handle.
I'll try the sources they recommend.

Wayne
----- Original Message -----
From: "Richard Lane" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "For and about Montgomery Sailboats"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, October 24, 2003 6:47 PM
Subject: Re: M_Boats: New Old M-17


> The winch and handle were made by Merriman, now defunct. Try Minney's
> surplus in S.Cal or Doc Freeman's in Seattle.
> Dick
>
>
> Morris, Giles wrote:
>
> >Is the winch out of production? (Silly question,,, of course they are,
> >otherwise you'd just order one). Places carrying used gear like Bacon
Sails
> >in Annapolis ( http://www.baconsails.com/index.html ) might be able to
help.
> >There is somewhere else on Back Creek, but I can't remember the name
right
> >now.
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of wayne
> >yeargain
> >Sent: Friday, October 24, 2003 9:16 AM
> >To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats
> >Subject: Re: M_Boats: New Old M-17
> >
> >
> >Speaking of m17 winches, my winch handle was missing when I bought my
boat &
> >the standard winch handles available at W. M. & BOATS US are too large to
> >fit in the socket.
> >Does anyone have one for sale or know of a source.
> >I'm not getting younger and the keel on my '76 weighs #350 I'm told.
> >Pulling that thing up by hand is a chore.
> >
> >Wayne M17 "Intrepid"
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: "Smith, Tom" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >To: "For and about Montgomery Sailboats"
> ><[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Sent: Thursday, October 23, 2003 11:01 PM
> >Subject: RE: M_Boats: New Old M-17
> >
> >
> >Well, the M centerboards are similar in that they both drop out of a
trunk
> >located in the ballasted shallow draft keel, but how they lower/stay in
the
> >lowered position/raise is very different.  The M15 is simpler and lighter
> >and is lowered/suspended/raised and suspended in the raised position with
a
> >pendant.  A knot in the pendant keeps the cb in the proper, lowered
> >position.
> >
> >The M17 cb is heavy and requires the assistance of a winch (or heck, a
good
> >wench will do the trick too probably) to lower/raise.  The M17 cb is kept
in
> >its proper, lowered position by a tang that contacts a stopper bolt--the
> >pendant is only used to lower it and raise it and secure it in the raised
> >position.
> >
> >There is probably no more discussed topic (aside from towing vehicles and
> >outboard motors) in the M archives--search them for more info.
> >
> >Tom Smith & Jane Van Winkle
> >Sandpoint, Idaho
> >M15-345, Chukar
> >M17-064, Unnamed
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: Rusty Knorr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >Sent: Thursday, October 23, 2003 7:23 PM
> >To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats
> >Subject: Re: M_Boats: New Old M-17
> >
> >
> >Hey, Howard.
> >  Does the centerboard/trunk on the M-15 look and work
> >the same way?
> >                             Thanks, Rusty
> >
> >
> >--- Howard Audsley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >
> >>Bill:
> >>
> >>To get an idea of what it all looks like down there,
> >>take a look at the
> >>centerboard pictures on the MSOG website:
> >>
> >>http://www.msog.org/models/m17/m-17-cb.cfm
> >>
> >>I too have often wondered if the sticking board
> >>problem on some boats is due
> >>to marine growth and not a swelling of the cast iron
> >>ballast in the trunk.
> >>
> >>Howard
> >>M17, #278
> >>
> >>
> >>On 10/22/03 6:37 PM, "Bill Sylvester"
> >><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>>Larry,
> >>>
> >>>The old M-17 has been sitting in her slip, unused,
> >>>
> >>>
> >>for over two years.
> >>
> >>
> >>>I am concerned that some marine critters have
> >>>
> >>>
> >>attached themselves to
> >>
> >>
> >>>the inside of the trunk.  If they are hard shelled
> >>>
> >>>
> >>they might bind the
> >>
> >>
> >>>board.  How much of the trunk is underwater?  If
> >>>
> >>>
> >>it is only the first
> >>
> >>
> >>>couple of inches, there might not be enough growth
> >>>
> >>>
> >>to matter.  We will
> >>
> >>
> >>>see.
> >>>
> >>>Thanks,
> >>>Bill
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
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