I asked the question re: new Honda 2 HP gas caps after dropping mine overboard this summer. The dumb restraining clip had broken or come loose. Bad Design (and I'm a mechanical engineer). Steve has it right. I eliminated the restraining lanyard and now remove the cap and put it in my pocket while filling the motor. I also keep a spare on board. You would think for $1,000 bucks, they could add a gas gauge. I bought a 1 gallon plastic gas tank with a pull-out flexible hose to help fill the OB on-board tank. Less chance on spilling gas and it fits in the starboard sail locker. Any other comments on filling on-board tanks? I have to do this once an hour when motoring, takes a liter. Don Ludlow M-15 # 620 Sweet Dream
-----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, October 27, 2003 2:19 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: montgomery_boats Digest, Vol 8, Issue 32 Send montgomery_boats mailing list submissions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can reach the person managing the list at [EMAIL PROTECTED] When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of montgomery_boats digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Re: Boat Advise - Thanks! (Rusty Knorr) 2. C'mon, join the Pardey! (Rusty Knorr) 3. Re: Boat Advise - Thanks! (Doug King) 4. Re: C'mon, join the Pardey! (Doug King) 5. Re: Possible Montgomery Rendezvous ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) 6. RE: ANOTHER huge thanks! (Morris, Giles) 7. Honda 2Hp Gas Cap (SteveR.) 8. Re: Honda 2Hp Gas Cap ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) 9. RE: San Juan Summer (Shawn Boles) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2003 17:34:10 -0800 (PST) From: Rusty Knorr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: M_Boats: Boat Advise - Thanks! To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Hey, Randy. Please post that date if you find it, I would love to read that as well! -Rusty --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Hi Randy, > > Go back in the M-archives and look for Scott > Grometer's account of his > M-15 cruising for several weeks at a time in the > same area you want to > explore. > > He wrote the definitive work in this regard. > > He covers equipment; supplies; storage methods for > long distance > cruising; fuel; problems encountered; and how he did > it. > > A most excellent dissertation of long distance > cruising on an M15. > > I went looking through my various piles of debris in > my office looking > for that account - I know I printed it out and > carefully saved it for > future reference - but try as I might, I couldn't > locate it to give you > it's date. > > Maybe Doug can give you an hand at find it. > > Connie > > _______________________________________________ > http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats ===== "In a power boat you may get there faster, but in a sailboat you are already there." __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Exclusive Video Premiere - Britney Spears http://launch.yahoo.com/promos/britneyspears/ ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2003 17:46:37 -0800 (PST) From: Rusty Knorr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: M_Boats: C'mon, join the Pardey! To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Hey, everyone. I have already learned the art of hating my outboard(a Tohatsu 2.5 that Dik Lang assures me will run fine if taken good care of.) I am sure many of you know my pain. LOL I am ready to forgo the whole outboard and go motorless like the Pardeys(whom I was fortunate enough to sail with, for about 15 minutes, a story for another time.) My question for you is, have any of you relied on alternative sources of propulsion, and what have been your successes(and failures.) I am thinking oars(standing facing forward) for the M-15. What about a single paddle with the tiller tied off? This is mostly for getting in and out of the marina, not for long distance. I am looking forward to hearing your suggestions! -Rusty Knorr M-15 ===== "In a power boat you may get there faster, but in a sailboat you are already there." __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Exclusive Video Premiere - Britney Spears http://launch.yahoo.com/promos/britneyspears/ ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2003 21:14:54 -0500 From: Doug King <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: M_Boats: Boat Advise - Thanks! To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Found Scott's account. I'm going to make a page for the MSOG of the posts, but in the meantime, you can find Scott's write-up by going to archive search page http://msog.org/cfmods/list_archive_search.cfm and use "storage" for the first search term, "gas" for the second search term and "Scott" for the third term or any order of the three, and enter "1999" for the year. You should get five messages. There is one follow-up message using the year "2000". Aw heck, here's the string, just click on this: http://msog.org/cfmods/list_archive_results.cfm?first_srch_text=storage&seco nd_srch_text=gas&third_srch_text=Scott&date_year_srch_text=1999 for 2000: http://msog.org/cfmods/list_archive_results.cfm?first_srch_text=storage&seco nd_srch_text=gas&third_srch_text=Scott&date_year_srch_text=2000 At 11:10 AM 10/26/03 -0500, you wrote: Hi Randy, Go back in the M-archives and look for Scott Grometer's account of his M-15 cruising for several weeks at a time in the same area you want to explore. He wrote the definitive work in this regard. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/private/montgomery_boats/attachm ents/20031026/5f23a954/attachment-0001.html ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2003 22:00:01 -0500 From: Doug King <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: M_Boats: C'mon, join the Pardey! To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Rusty, There is an article in the How-to section of the MSOG site on sculling oars for the Montys. Go to http://msog.org/how-to/oars.cfm to see the article, and go to the Small Boat Journal articles on the subject at http://councill.home.mindspring.com/sbjournal/sbjournal.html Also a couple of sites listed in the MSOG Links list for sculling and oars site, notably, http://www.oarclub.org/index.html Gee, that MSOG site has just about everything! Doug At 05:46 PM 10/26/03 -0800, you wrote: >Hey, everyone. > I have already learned the art of hating my >outboard(a Tohatsu 2.5 that Dik Lang assures me will >run fine if taken good care of.) I am sure many of you >know my pain. LOL I am ready to forgo the whole >outboard and go motorless like the Pardeys(whom I was >fortunate enough to sail with, for about 15 minutes, a >story for another time.) My question for you is, have >any of you relied on alternative sources of >propulsion, and what have been your successes(and >failures.) I am thinking oars(standing facing forward) >for the M-15. What about a single paddle with the >tiller tied off? This is mostly for getting in and out >of the marina, not for long distance. I am looking >forward to hearing your suggestions! > > -Rusty Knorr M-15 > > >===== >"In a power boat you may get there faster, > but in a sailboat you are already there." > > >__________________________________ >Do you Yahoo!? >Exclusive Video Premiere - Britney Spears >http://launch.yahoo.com/promos/britneyspears/ > >_______________________________________________ >http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats ------------------------------------------ Doug King M-17 #404 "Vixen" Montgomery Sailboats Owners Group Web site: http://msog.org Email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/private/montgomery_boats/attachm ents/20031026/4fe2b10f/attachment-0001.html ------------------------------ Message: 5 Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2003 23:25:22 EST From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: M_Boats: Possible Montgomery Rendezvous To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Steve, Rondezvous is an ancient celtic word meaning:" The man can't type". I can spell, it's just that my fingers are dyslexic. Rendezvous on the other hand, is a french word meaning a pre-arranged meeting or a particular place. It was the term used for the annual get-to-gether of fur trappers in the early 1800s. Their rendezvous was a wild drunken brawling hagging spree where they also did a bit of fur trading. Ours should be a wee bit more tame, and all you need to bring is everything you need for the trip. There are a few restaurants in the area, and some land based sight seeing opportunities. I'll get more info online shortly. John Edwards Miss T M17 # 372 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/private/montgomery_boats/attachm ents/20031026/e3b8d897/attachment-0001.html ------------------------------ Message: 6 Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2003 09:12:26 -0600 From: "Morris, Giles" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: RE: M_Boats: ANOTHER huge thanks! To: 'For and about Montgomery Sailboats' <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" >I'm sure I'll inadvertently leave a name out, but it's Connie, Tod, John, Larry, Doug, Giles, >Howard and others that make this list an invaluable resource I get far more from this list than I could ever give back. It's a great pleasure to be part of this group of friends -- and a part of that is the diversity in personality, experience, location, focus etc. Which is another way of saying that neophyte questions are as much a part of this as (say) discussions of windvanes that leave me struggling to understand even a part of them. Not only that, but we seem to do a good job of going off-topic in the right direction. It was here that I was given encouragement and information that were a lot of help (to put it mildly) in removing and refitting Dolphin's diesel engine earlier this year. Off-topic: I was strongly reminded of the joys of an M-15 yesterday while removing several square feet of the attractive (but doomed) teak cabin floor on Dolphin because the underlying wood has rotted. As I was cutting across it with the Rotozip, it suddenly occurred to me that I really, _really_ didn't want to accidentally cut through the hull. Luckily the smell of cutting resin turned out to be because the previous owner had the same problem, and had solved it (albeit temporarily) by injecting resin into the rotted area. <Sigh!> Giles Morris ------------------------------ Message: 7 Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2003 10:59:08 -0800 (PST) From: Steve R. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: M_Boats: Honda 2Hp Gas Cap To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Content-Type: text/plain A heads up for the M-15 crowd. I have seen several posts on the Potter sites about the Honda 2 Hp motor and lost gas caps. It may be a design problem or operator error. I suspect resting a large fuel container on top of the motor would pull the cap loose, but I do not have the boat at home to look at it. Of course the cap sinks, so it is not possible to tell if the restraint was broken. It is not clear to me which vintage motors have the problem. Steve R. M-15 #119 Lexington, KY ------------------------------ Message: 8 Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2003 20:06:50 +0000 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: M_Boats: Honda 2Hp Gas Cap To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], For and about Montgomery Sailboats <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> My Honda 2-hp gas cap is restrained only by a flimsy little plastic "tee" that sticks into the tank - it can be pulled (or knocked) free with only the tiniest of effort. Whoever designed it should be summarily excoriated. It would be better to have no restraint at all, so that people wouldn't be tempted to trust it. I NEVER rely on that to keep my gas cap when I'm refueling on the water. Probably it would be wise to carry a spare cap, because removing it and setting it down somewhere while you refill carries its own risks I suppose. Knowing me (and I do) I probably won't get around to ordering a spare until I finally really do lose this one into the water, however. It would not surprise me in the least to hear that people had lost their caps. > A heads up for the M-15 crowd. I have seen several posts on the Potter sites > about the Honda 2 Hp motor and lost gas caps. It may be a design problem or > operator error. I suspect resting a large fuel container on top of the motor > would pull the cap loose, but I do not have the boat at home to look at it. Of > course the cap sinks, so it is not possible to tell if the restraint was broken. > It is not clear to me which vintage motors have the problem. > > Steve R. > M-15 #119 > Lexington, KY > > _______________________________________________ > http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats ------------------------------ Message: 9 Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2003 12:16:13 -0800 From: Shawn Boles <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: RE: M_Boats: San Juan Summer To: "'For and about Montgomery Sailboats'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Hi Larry; I am interested in being included in this. My schedule may not permit participation, but keep me posted. cheers- Shawn Boles Grey Mist (M17 #276 1978) -----Original Message----- From: Larry Yake [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, October 26, 2003 5:08 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: M_Boats: San Jaun Summer Alright! Tom W., Randy W., and Bill S. added to the list. Larry On Sun, 26 Oct 2003 16:08:49 -0800 "Randy Wirth" < [EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > writes: My family is also planning a San Juan Islands trip this next summer and would love to be able to check in with other Monty owners. Please put me on any contact list. M-17, "Fore Play" [EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/private/montgomery_boats/attachm ents/20031027/25e2c5d8/attachment.html ------------------------------ _______________________________________________ montgomery_boats mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats End of montgomery_boats Digest, Vol 8, Issue 32 *********************************************** _______________________________________________ http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats
