I know the question is directed at Jerry, but when this topic came up a few years ago, 
the Jerry/Bob response
was that the lifting rudder was much stronger for offshore sailing . . . I would love 
to have had a stock
factory kick-up to install, but am instead adapting and tweaking a custom-built rudder 
by trial and error . .
. But next season, I'm positive I'll get it right . . .

----- Original Message -----
From: "Smith, Tom" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "For and about Montgomery Sailboats" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2003 1:41 PM
Subject: M15 kick up rudder on M17?

Speaking of the M15 rudder, has anyone explored the idea of a beefier version of this 
setup for the M17?
Jerry, was there some reason you didn't carry this idea over to the larger boat?  I 
agree the M17 rudder is
vulnerable (I have the damaged M17 rudder to prove it).  Just wondering...  t

Tom Smith & Jane Van Winkle
Sandpoint, Idaho
M15-345, Chukar
M17-064, Unnamed

-----Original Message-----
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Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2003 7:23 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Grounding durability

Hi Steve,

The rudder on an M15 will kick up by itself when it hits and obstruction;
or you raise the tiller and the rubber comes up.

A very neat and elegant design that works beautifully.

Connie
M15  #400

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