Hi guys: The other day while motoring in through shallow water with the rudder up I had to sit back to the stern to get to the handle on my trusty Honda 2 HP, I noticed that the board on the motor mount that the outboard clamps to was DRAGGING IN THE WATER! Wow! When I got back in deep water, I dropped the rudder and moved forward but the board was still it the water. There are two adjustment slots for the lower position and it was in the top slot. I'm thinking about getting my Dremel tool and making a new set of slots to get the board up higher. Has anyone else with the new motor mount noticed this? I'm a big guy (200#) but not that big! Of course, its only a problem with the motor down and then you still have lots of power. Fair winds (I had to wear a jacket today, winter is hell!) Don Ludlow M-15 # 620 Sweet Dream
-----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, January 26, 2004 10:55 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: montgomery_boats Digest, Vol 11, Issue 15 Send montgomery_boats mailing list submissions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can reach the person managing the list at [EMAIL PROTECTED] When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of montgomery_boats digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Re: new subscriber (Wayne Yeargain) 2. Re: M-17 trailer wheels (Kerry Swart) 3. Re: new subscriber (gilbert landin) 4. Re: new subscriber (MC) 5. Re: new subscriber (davenanc) 6. Re: new subscriber (davenanc) 7. Trailor Sailor Link (MC) 8. coolerless cruising ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) 9. Re: coolerless cruising - not a problem ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) 10. Re: monty vs cape dory typhoon (Gilbert Landin) 11. RE: Re: monty vs cape dory typhoon (Roberta Dvorscak) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2004 09:18:49 -0600 From: "Wayne Yeargain" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: M_Boats: new subscriber To: "For and about Montgomery Sailboats" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Hi Gilbert I live in Manvel Tx. and sail a in Galveston Bay and surrounding area, if you'd like to see a Monty contact me. Regards Wayne M17 "Intrepid" ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gilbert Landin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, January 25, 2004 11:00 PM Subject: M_Boats: new subscriber Gilbert Landin, Corpus christi, Texas. I dont have a monty but have been captivated with the material online, I would love to see one "live" any owners in the south texas coastal bend? gil _______________________________________________ http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2004 09:40:24 -0700 From: Kerry Swart <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: M_Boats: M-17 trailer wheels To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Kroil is super. It is an order of magnitude WD-40, but boy does it smell! Kerry [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > Hi Harvey, > > What I use to free rusted parts are: > > AERO KROIL > Kano Laboratories > 1000 S. Thompson Lane > Nashville, TN 37211 > > This is only available through mail order; I've never seen it in stores. > > The other is: > > CRC 5-56 > CRC Chemicals USA > Warminster, PA 18974 > > The CRC products are available at automobile parts and supply stores: > also you will find it in Welding Supply shops. > > Both products have done good jobs for me, and I don;t prefer one over the > other. Usually it's a case of which spray can is within reach? Garage > or downstairs in my shop. > > After you have soaked them for a few days, try warming the studs with a > small propane torch. Heat does a good job of breaking down rust. Just > be careful that you do it outside,; and have a fire extinguisher handy if > things start burning (the oil in the solvents). > > Another old trick is to take a larger size pin punch and about a 2 lb > hand sledge hammer. Put the pin punch on a corner of the hex of the wheel > nut, then try hitting it with the 2 lb sledge. Short sharp blows will > (hopefully) loosen the nut. > > What you are trying to do is position the punch so that you apply > tangential force to the nut (trying to rotate the nut). > > The combination of soaking in a rust solvent; applying heat to the stud; > and applying force with the hammer should do the trick.......... > > Next time put some water pump grease on the stud threads before you put > the trailer in water! > > Good luck > > Connie > > _______________________________________________ > http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2004 12:27:29 -0600 From: "gilbert landin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: M_Boats: new subscriber To: "For and about Montgomery Sailboats" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Thanks, that would be marvelous. Can you give me some ddetails? gilbert ----- Original Message ----- From: "davenanc" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "For and about Montgomery Sailboats" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, January 26, 2004 7:40 Subject: Re: M_Boats: new subscriber > Hi, I am at Canyon Lake. I am 17 foot long and need a new home. My owner > died in October and he loved to sail so much. Come up and take a look. > Nancy Phippeny > 830 899 2438 home > 830 899 7675 work > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Gilbert Landin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Sunday, January 25, 2004 11:00 PM > Subject: M_Boats: new subscriber > > > Gilbert Landin, Corpus christi, Texas. I dont have a monty but have been > captivated with the material online, I would love to see one "live" any > owners in the south texas coastal bend? > > gil > _______________________________________________ > http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats > > > > > _______________________________________________ > http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats > > ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2004 16:32:05 -0500 From: "MC" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: M_Boats: new subscriber To: "For and about Montgomery Sailboats" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" where is Canyon Lake ??? ------------------------------ Message: 5 Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2004 16:09:55 -0600 From: "davenanc" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: M_Boats: new subscriber To: "MC" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Canyon Lake is mid way between Austin and San Antonio Tx. Nanc ----- Original Message ----- From: "MC" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "For and about Montgomery Sailboats" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, January 26, 2004 3:32 PM Subject: Re: M_Boats: new subscriber > where is Canyon Lake ??? > > _______________________________________________ > http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats > > ------------------------------ Message: 6 Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2004 16:37:29 -0600 From: "davenanc" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: M_Boats: new subscriber To: "For and about Montgomery Sailboats" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Well I need to get the title out of lock box to tell you the year and hull #. I have a list of things David had written down about it. At present and for the last year and 1/2 it has been trapped and kept clean but not in the water. It looks good; has 4 cockpit winches, two rudders, one cut down and one designed to kickup. 1 Jib, 1 main, 180 Genoa, 1 Spinnaker. 1 Anchor, knot meter,76' 6 hp Johnson motor, Main cover, Cockpit canvas bags, Trailer, windex, new bearings and lights on trailer, but I need to replace one tire due to it going flat. Cushions are in great shape. There may be a few other things which I have not thought of. I had planned to go out of town this weekend but if we get bad weather and north is where I had planned to go then I will be canceling my trip for sure. Back to the sail boat, I have always considered it a" guy thing" so I may have to call a friend regarding any questions I can't answer; I know I should have listened closer but towards the end I just couldn't ask David to tell me more about the boat. It was his love and I couldn't bring myself to do it. I know also that it has only been in lake water and to my knowledge this lake. David bought it from an older sailor who belonged to the Lake Canyon Yacht Club. Guess you know where Canyon Lake is located. I tried calling you back but didn't get you. Regards, Nanc ----- Original Message ----- From: "gilbert landin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "For and about Montgomery Sailboats" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, January 26, 2004 12:27 PM Subject: Re: M_Boats: new subscriber > Thanks, that would be marvelous. Can you give me some ddetails? > > gilbert > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "davenanc" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "For and about Montgomery Sailboats" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Monday, January 26, 2004 7:40 > Subject: Re: M_Boats: new subscriber > > > > Hi, I am at Canyon Lake. I am 17 foot long and need a new home. My owner > > died in October and he loved to sail so much. Come up and take a look. > > Nancy Phippeny > > 830 899 2438 home > > 830 899 7675 work > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Gilbert Landin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Sent: Sunday, January 25, 2004 11:00 PM > > Subject: M_Boats: new subscriber > > > > > > Gilbert Landin, Corpus christi, Texas. I dont have a monty but have been > > captivated with the material online, I would love to see one "live" any > > owners in the south texas coastal bend? > > > > gil > > _______________________________________________ > > http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats > > ------------------------------ Message: 7 Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2004 18:51:34 -0500 From: "MC" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: M_Boats: Trailor Sailor Link To: "For and about Montgomery Sailboats" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Some one know what happening, I tried to see one of the Trailer Sailor links and I keep getting error message, no longer available at this server. Are they still around, I'm looking for the picture of a short railing around the base of the mast and a solar panel attached to the sliding hatch. ------------------------------ Message: 8 Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2004 20:07:37 -0500 From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: M_Boats: coolerless cruising To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ....thought this article about cruising sans cooler (and refrigerator) might be of interest: http://www.boatus.com/goodoldboat/cooler.htm Tod ------------------------------ Message: 9 Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2004 21:38:37 EST From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: M_Boats: coolerless cruising - not a problem To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" My wife and I spent almost two years cruising in the Bahamas on a 28' ketch without refrigeration...believe me, it isn't a big deal once you get over the mental block of doing it. Ever since then I drink warm soda pop and don't even think about it. Bill P. ------------------------------ Message: 10 Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2004 21:48:16 -0600 From: "Gilbert Landin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: M_Boats: Re: monty vs cape dory typhoon To: "For and about Montgomery Sailboats" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" I have been tossing and turning, trying to decide what my next sailboat will be. I thought for sure I would want something trailable. Not being limited to by neighborhood is a great incentive. I also wanted a daysailor w/ a cabin to spend weekends somewhere. Abig concearn (and I turn to this knowledgable group) is how the boat handles in bay situations when the wind is blowing 20-25 knots as it will be for the next 4-5 months. I was looking at a cape dory typhoon, with its nice heavy shoal keel But they stopped produced in the mid 80's. So there is a big apeal towards newer stronger and lighter materials. I have never sailed either dows anyone have any comparison notes between the CD Typhoon and the 17? ----- Original Message ----- From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, January 26, 2004 8:35 AM Subject: Re: M_Boats: new subscriber > I live in Rockport and have just purchased our 2nd Monty which will live in > Maine. The original which is about 20 years old is here in Rockport. I'll bet > that the owner will show it to you if you knocked on the door and asked > nicely--he did for me. I can look up the address for you if you like. Skip Langley > _______________________________________________ > http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats > From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mon Jan 26 21:41:32 2004 Received: from grouse.mail.pas.earthlink.net ([207.217.120.116]) by mailman.xmission.com with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1AlL2a-0007bu-00 for <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Mon, 26 Jan 2004 21:41:32 -0700 Received: from 64-48-202-59-phx-01.cvx.algx.net ([64.48.202.59] helo�0D0Q21) by grouse.mail.pas.earthlink.net with smtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 1AlL2Y-00078N-00; Mon, 26 Jan 2004 20:41:32 -0800 Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> From: "MC" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "For and about Montgomery Sailboats" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2004 23:41:29 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Subject: M_Boats: Flopper Stoppers X-BeenThere: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: MC <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, For and about Montgomery Sailboats <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> List-Id: For and about Montgomery Sailboats <montgomery_boats.mailman.xmission.com> List-Help: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> List-Post: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> List-Subscribe: <http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats>, <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> List-Archive: <http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/private/montgomery_boats> List-Unsubscribe: <http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats>, <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Has anyone used the Flopper Stoppers how much did they stop the roll??? ------------------------------ Message: 11 Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2004 20:54:33 -0800 From: "Roberta Dvorscak" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: RE: M_Boats: Re: monty vs cape dory typhoon To: "'For and about Montgomery Sailboats'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" I don't have any experience with the Cape Dory Typhoon but my 1983 M17 (with the working jib or a few wraps on the furler and 1 reef in the main) is a delight to sail in 25 knot winds. I can heave to for a snack with no problem or I can put the rail in the water to try and get my wife wet while she's lounging on the leeward cockpit seat. The M17 inspires great confidence and is just plain fun to sail in a blow. It's also an easily trailered boat. As you can tell, I'm hooked. My wife and I have spent up to a week on the boat and on several occasions have gone for 3 days without setting foot on land. There are other good boats around for sure, but I don't believe that there are any better boats in the same size. Mark Dvorscak M17 Grace M23 Faith ------------------------------ _______________________________________________ montgomery_boats mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats End of montgomery_boats Digest, Vol 11, Issue 15 ************************************************ _______________________________________________ http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats
