It's looking even worse now for the available M-15s.  Our usual ad page have
seven "Montgomery 15 Wanted" ads and  only the '81 in Kanas is available for
purchase.  This is getting discouraging.  But at least this proves I have
good taste in small and high quality sailboats.  I just can't get exicited
about any other type of sailboat.  

Fair Winds all, Larry Hughston in Sacramento. 

-----Original Message-----
From: Honshells [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, May 21, 2004 4:35 PM
To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats
Subject: M_Boats: m15 in oregon



You're welcome, Larry.  If the adage is true that an owner doesn't choose
their boat, but a boat chooses her
owner, then I hope your M15 finds you soon.  :-)   Fair winds, Craig

----- Original Message -----
From: "Hughston, Larry" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "'For and about Montgomery Sailboats'"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, May 21, 2004 10:13 AM
Subject: m15 in oregon

I thank you for the good info.  I may have burned a bridge to far. ----L

-----Original Message-----
From: Honshells [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, May 20, 2004 5:25 PM
To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats
Subject: m15 in oregon

I traveled 1,620 miles to retrieve my '84 M17 . . . It had been surveyed (at
my expense), but I paid substantially more than the surveyor said the boat
was worth:  I had been looking for an M17 for months, and the surveyor
pegged his estimate to what he found on the MSOG site in one evening.  I
could only secure the loan on the amount the [in this case] uninformed said
it was worth, and, having no cash at the time, borrowed the difference at a
higher unsecured rate.  I paid less than what the Oregon M15 owner is
asking, but not significantly less:  And his boat is a '91, and as Scott
said, "The '91 has the lead ballast and several other improvements."  So I
paid insignificantly less for a 7-years-older boat that had the problematic
steel-shot ballast, rather than the lead.  The boat I bought needed some new
hardware and a lot of cosmetic work. Looking at Nor'Sea's website, it looks
as if the difference in cost between a new Monty 15' with trailer and a new
Monty 17' with trailer is about $5,700.00 so I know I'm comparing apples and
oranges.  But what I'm trying to suggest is that Scott might be onto
something:  " . . . the price [of the M15 in Oregon] seems quite reasonable
if it is as advertised."  Another survey and you'll have spent $5,600.00 on
the 10-years-older Kansas M15 if the asking price is firm.  The Oregon
sounds like a good deal.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Hughston, Larry" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "'For and about Montgomery Sailboats'"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, May 20, 2004 10:44 AM
Subject: m15 . . . http://msog.org/cfmods/M-boats4sail.cfm . . . none of
these are available?

The survey came out good.  I was sent a written report, the cost was $300. I
am stuck here in Sacramento so I thought it might be worth a shot.  The only
thing that was noted was a dry tire on the trailer and a few minor things
that were not safety issues.  The report included a visual on the motor
also.  -----Larry

-----Original Message-----
From: Bob [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, May 20, 2004 7:49 AM
To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats
Subject: m15 . . . http://msog.org/cfmods/M-boats4sail.cfm . . . none of
these are available?

Larry

How did the survey come out?  Where any problems found and how much did the
surveyor charge?

Just curious..!

Bob

Hughston, Larry wrote:

The Seller in Oregon got offended when I politely asked if there was any
room negotiation on the price.  His ad reads " asking price $5995.00".  To
me when the word "asking price" is used I take that to mean there might be
room for discussion of the final price.  That's the Montgomery 15 I paid to
be surveyed. ---L

-----Original Message-----
From: Honshells [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, May 20, 2004 3:54 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: m15 . . . http://msog.org/cfmods/M-boats4sail.cfm . . . none of
these are available?

Reference #: 227
For Sale: 1991 Montgomery 15
Location: Corvallis, Oregon
Seller: Dave Hurst Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Description: Wife wants bigger boat. Boat has seen little use since new.
Comes with 2003 Nissan 4HP 4-stroke (about 10 hours) and trailer. Everything
is in excellent condition. Coast Guard safety equipment, dock lines,
fenders, life jackets, boat hook. Engine has internal fuel tank and also can
run on Nissan 3 gal external fuel tank.

Price:$ 5995.00

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Reference #: 232
For Sale: 1985 Montgomery 15
Location: Arlington, VA
Seller: Tom Nichols Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Description: 1985 Montgomery 15 in good condition and never bottom painted,
1995 galvanized steel trailer, 1996 3hp Johnson with internal tank,
porti-potti, cockpit and v-berth cushions, and transom ladder. Sails include
tanbark main and jib, spinaker, and genoa.

Price:$ 3500

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Reference #: 223
For Sale: 1981 Montgomery 15
Location: Kansas City, MO
Seller: Michael Egger Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Description: call for details 816-313-6124. Solar panel, Jack rabbit marine
charge regulator, nice electric panel installed in custom inside dash, cd
player, interior cabin lighting and nav lights, porta potti, jib downhaul,
bow pulpit, new battery, trail rite trailer, 4hp electric trolling motor.

Price:$ 5000

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Reference #: 197
For Sale: 1984 Montgomery 15
Boat Name:"Serenity"
Location: Lake Nockamixon , Bucks County , PA
Seller: John U Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Description: New Main and Jib , Roller Furling with u v covering , New
rigging lines ,sunbrella main sail cover, nav lights , depth finder with
temp, speed, and fish , rebuilt swing keel pivot , '95 Mercury sailmaster 4
H P motor on new mount----------motor rebuilt 2001 , Fully re conditioned
trail rite trailer , standard ivory hull with blue sheer stripe , black
plexiglass companionway door , bow pulpit , new cockpit cushions , etc . She
is truly a beauty and painful to part with. Call John at 610 - 287 - 5350 .

Price:$ 5500.00

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Hughston, Larry" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "'For and about Montgomery Sailboats'"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, May 19, 2004 2:18 PM
Subject: M-15

Bob, here is the URL for the website with the Montgomery 1s5 listed in the
"Ms" alphabetically.  There are three togethers, two sold and a 2002
Montgomery 15 at $9000.  "not for sale".   Hmmm  ----Later,  Larry (Still
looking) Hughston

-----Original Message-----
From: Bob [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, May 19, 2004 11:02 AM
To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats
Subject: M-15

Larry....
I'll keep my ear open for any used 15s. It has been my observation that used
Montgomery 15s are becoming a rare species.

5 years ago they were available and correctly coveted for what they were.
Over the years and because of the new M_15s, the price of the used boats
have shot up more than double.

What used M_15 on the msog.org site is 'not for sale'? In your research, are
any of the others already SOLD?  We can update Doug on this info.

Fair winds
Bob

Hughston, Larry wrote:

Bob, These sites are not well maintained.  It can be really frustrating! For
some reason there is also an ad listing a Montgomery 15

that is "Not for

Sale"....makes no sense.  Keep looking every day if you can.     ----Larry

-----Original Message-----
From: Bob [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, May 19, 2004 7:35 AM
To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats
Subject: M-15

There seems to be 4 listed for sale on msog.org. Are these already SOLD?

One each in Kansas, Pennsylvania, Oregon and Virginia.

(maybe some of these are no longer available and the for sale ad has not
been removed yet?)

Fair winds
Bob

Hughston, Larry wrote:

Mr. Wells, I too am looking for a Montgomery 15 here on the left hand coast.
If you hear of any for sale from Washington state to San Diego please let me
know.  I assume you have been checking all the relevant web sites.  Good
Luck,  ---L

-----Original Message-----
From: Alan Wells [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, May 19, 2004 6:47 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: M-15

I am looking for a Montgomery 15 is there one for sale at present.

Thanks
Alan Wells
Charlotte NC





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