Hi Bill,
         Thanks for the weather report, bay view in SF,  make us feel
bad, go ahead. We've had a couple of trucks. I think the best in regards
to mileage, etc. was a Toyota T100. It had the strong 4 cyl. and it got
over 20 mpg. If you can find one it might be worth checking. Our current
truck a Chevy V8, is a great truck, has the towing package, tows well 
but doesn't turn in the high MPG. The diesel models may do better. A
friend with one gets around 20.

take care,

Randy W.
M15 Becca Anne, Texas  

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Hi All, 
You all will get sick of this before I select something to tow my M-17
with. 
It's either keep the Honda Civic and add a second vehicle dedicated to
tow or 
get a new truck that will get decent mileage and still tow the M-17.
Now I'm considering a 150 HP, 4 cyl, Toyota Tacoma Prerunner. In 2002 I

bought a new Tacoma 4X4, V-6, 5 speed and was dissapointed in that I
got a rotten 
16 to 17 MPG overall and a whopping 18 - 19 on the freeway. And that's
after 
adding TRD exhaust & Filtron sock air cleaner. 
Anyway, I've had tremendous reliability with other Toyota trucks and am

wondering if anyone out there has any real word experience with the
Prerunner 4 
cyl.. They are of course 2 wheel drive, available with automatic only
and have a 
factory rebate (cool). I dont have to tow fast, the posted trailer
rating is 
3500 Pounds so that's adequate. I'm, as always, concerned with mileage.
Not so 
much when towing but with general use. Any experience with one yourself
or 
maybe with a friends?
Thanks for the input
Bill SF Bay
M-17 #496 "Tiperary"

P.s. An unusual SF day today. Crystal clear, 75 degrees, nice westerly
wind, 
lots of sailboats with multi color spinakers flying, on the bay. One of
my 
deliveries was to the North side of the City in the hills overlooking
the bay. As 
I'm working, the cable cars are dropping off tourists who are
feverently 
clicking away at the beauty of the SF Bay area. Today was a day that if
Tiperary 
was here I'd be taking tomorrow off. I was awe struck and I live
here... Then 
reality hit with the next delivery. I had to back up Elizabeth Street
about 
three blocks. Elizabeth is the fourth steepest in the city. On the
turns I was 
puckering a bit. Cement mixer trucks are a bit top heavy... Just a bit!
 I 
always tell my friends I've never yet found out how far one can lean
before it tips 
over... and that's a good thing...  Hope I never find out!
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