Yes, given the mast crutch is at the factory original height, the mast should settle 
in just fine with the hatch closed.  Crutch height is the key.  I've got my crutch 
rigged so I have two levels; one high for raising/lowering the mast, and one low for 
trailering (I prefer a lower profile towing package).  t

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Tom Smith and Jane Van Winkle
M15--345 �Chukar
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-----Original Message-----
From: RandyG [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, October 15, 2004 2:24 PM
To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats
Subject: RE: M_Boats: M-15 mast unstepping quandry

Hi David,
 
On our M15 (#407) the mast will contact the forward part of the sliding hatch, if the 
sliding hatch is full open. We raise and lower our mast with the bolt in place. The 
solution for us is to close the sliding hatch. We do have a factory mast carrier; the 
base end of the mast is supported by a U-shaped crutch that is part of our trailer. 
And the top of the mast is supported in a removable stainless steel crutch that fits 
into the rudder gudgeons. 
 
As I recall, when looking at the boat with the mast secured in the crutches, the mast 
is higher by several inches at the transom than at the bow. Our bow mast support is 
just a few inches above our bow pulpit.
 
Hope this helps,
Randy Graves
M15 #407
 

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of David Wood
Sent: Fri 10/15/2004 1:55 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: M_Boats: M-15 mast unstepping quandry



Yesterday I unstepped the mast on my M-15 for the first time in
preparation for winter storage, and ran into a situation for which I
was a little unprepared. When I unclipped the forestay and began
lowering the mast (without removing the mast step bolt holding the mast
into the mast step, merely loosening it), the mast wouldn't lie all the
way down into the rear mast carrier. Instead it made contact with the
hatch first, and I was afraid that the weight of the mast might crack
the hatch (which was in the forward/open position). So I pulled the
mast back up into its raised position and removed the bolt before
lowering it down again--with GREAT effort--since I had nothing to
"foot" that mast against. After reading how easy it was to step and
unstep the mast on this boat, I figure that either I was doing
something wrong, or my boat has a non-standard set-up which I'm going
to want to rectify this winter.

My boat is a 1981 M-15, and I'm not sure how many "improvements" have
been committed on it. The aft mast carrier is not original equipment, I
believe, since it doesn't slide into the rudder gudgeons, but rather is
held up by a small wooden contraption the previous owner built in the
rear of the cockpit. But the mast is level in the stored/down position,
resting on the rear mast carrier and the bow pulpit (my old Trail-Rite
trailer doesn't have a forward mast carrier on its tongue). It's just a
real bitch getting it into that position. And when I lowered the mast
yesterday while it was still bolted it was about 12-15" higher than
level (over the mast carrier) in the rear when it made contact with the
hatch. I'm just glad I was really careful when I was lowering it and
pulled it back up as soon as I saw that plan A wasn't going too well.

So is this normal? Does your mast get hung up on the hatch when you
lower it? My initial solution is to simply build a taller mast carrier
with pintles so that the mast can be lowered into it while still bolted
without contacting the hatch. But I wonder whether it might be a
problem to trailer the boat with the mast at an angle and therefore
more likely to slide forward in a sudden stop--assuming I'm stupid
enough not to secure it well.

Sorry to be so long-winded. But what's up with that?

David

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1981 M15   -=-  Hull #163


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