Bill:

When in doubt always consult the MSOG:

http://www.msog.org/specs/hin17.cfm

I think you have #279, made in 2-78. Audasea appears to be #278, also made
in Feb 1978...maybe even the same day? Jerry was having fun and cranking
them out back then.

BTW....how did you fix your cockpit drain? Is it now a seacock?

Howard 



On 11/23/04 5:37 PM, "William Sylvester" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Howard,
> 
> If you are sailing M17 #278 we should be close friends as the Vin#  on
> Endelig is MMP172790278!!  I hope I am correct and not putting my foot
> in my mouth again.
> 
> Max,
> 
> When I got my used M-17 # 278 (I think) she had been moored, unused in
> a saltwater slip for a number of years.  Luckily for me, while doing a
> clean up, with the boat was on the trailer, I found a lot of water on
> the sole of the cabin.  It turns out that the aluminum cockpit
> drain-pipe fiber-glassed into the hull was rotten and had literally
> disintegrated.  I put a inspection port in the center of the front of
> the back seat so I could correct the problem.  Check that out, if it is
> the problem, I would be happy to send you some pictures  of my fix.
> 
> Bill Sylvester
> M-17 #???
> Endelig
> 
> On Nov 23, 2004, at 3:00 PM, Howard Audsley wrote:
> 
>> Hello Max:
>> 
>> So you have #277? I'm sailing #278.....and #279 is also on the list
>> Looks
>> like we have that era covered!
>> 
>> Water is collecting under the V-berth? Not many places it could come
>> from
>> there except perhaps a knotmeter. Most of those have a thru hull hole,
>> and
>> only an O-ring to seal it.  That's the only thru hull I have under the
>> v-berth. There is also a hole for the galley drain under the
>> galley......and
>> if that was leaking, water could move forward to under the v-berth.
>> And of
>> course the eye. There is a false front at the front of the
>> v-berth...between
>> the liner and the hull. But nothing up there should be below the water
>> line
>> to leak.  Do you have an access port in the forward part above the
>> v-berth....so you can get at the bow eye nuts? Install a new one with
>> backing plate perhaps? Hull deck joints leak on top of the v-berth. You
>> would see that water and your cushions would be wet.
>> 
>> If water is behind the bulkhead on your cabin floor, there is also the
>> cockpit drain to consider, and perhaps the centerboard trunk.   Not
>> many
>> other holes where it could come from.
>> 
>> As for the transom, that doesn't sound good. If the cabin top has
>> separated
>> from the hull at the transom, and the plywood core has rotted out, I'd
>> fear
>> you are in for a major repair. The transom should not be hollow,
>> except well
>> below the level of the cockpit seats. The top half of the
>> transom....around
>> the motor cutout and where the chainplates bolt on, should be solid
>> core
>> plywood....I'd guess 3/4 inch.    I can imagine how to do that repair,
>> but
>> it wouldn't be fun.
>> 
>> Howard
>> M17, #278
>> Audasea
>> 
>> On 11/23/04 4:33 PM, "Max Dawson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> 
>>> Hello one and all!  My name is Max, and I bought an M17 (hull#277)
>>> last year
>>> site unseen from someone in Texas (I live in Knoxville, TN).  I was
>>> very
>>> happy to discover that the claims written on the MSOG site regarding
>>> this
>>> boat's sailing ability are true.  I sailed on lakes Sabine and Conroe
>>> during
>>> my visit a few weeks ago, and was pleasantly surprised on both light
>>> and
>>> heavy wind capability.  I purused the archives for some issues that I
>>> am
>>> experiencing, and so far have not come across answers, so if I am not
>>> being
>>> too much a bother I will ask them here.
>>> 1 - The boat is taking on a little water (around 3-5 gal. on an
>>> overnighter), which is collecting under the vee berth area.  The bow
>>> eye is
>>> quite loose, but it appears to be around 12 inches up from the water
>>> line.
>>> I thought it might have something to do with the scupper lines (they
>>> drain
>>> very slowly), but if this is the case I would think the cabin sole
>>> proper
>>> would be wet.  Any ideas?
>>> 2 - The transom is pushed in at the top some, and appears to be
>>> hollow - is
>>> this correct?  I am wondering about the best way to repair it.  It is
>>> quite
>>> sailable now, but I am concerned, since the top (at the separated
>>> area) also
>>> has one of the gudgeons.  I want to make sure the rudder is
>>> sufficiently
>>> supported.
>>> 
>>> I had sent a similar message on 11/19, but used another email address
>>> - and
>>> the message was rejected on the list.  Hope this one goes through OK.
>>> Any personal emails may be sent to mdawson at utk.edu
>>> Thanks max
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
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