Have it surveyed if you are serious about buying - you won't regret the
relatively minor expense (ca $200) - 

cheers-
Shawn Boles
Grey Mist (M17 #276 1978)


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Sent: Monday, August 14, 2006 5:20 AM
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Subject: Re: M_Boats: what to look for/at in a 1975 M-17

Hi Robbin,

Of course there are lots of things to look for, but I'll just mention a 
couple here to get you started :-)

1) Deck core.
Wet deck core can be fixed, but it's a pain (ask me how I know...).  On 
the off chance that the present owner doesn't want you drilling 
numerous test holes in the deck ;-), you can get a pretty good idea by 
looking inside at the areas where the various deck hardware items are 
attached (bow pulpit, jib tracks, traveller, etc.)  If you see rusted 
bolts, orange staining, or any other signs of water having leaked 
through in those areas, it might be prudent to remove some hardware and 
check the condition of the deck core.

You can also "sound" the deck with something like a plastic mallet, or 
a screwdriver handle.  A nice "ring" sound is good; a dull thump can 
indicate moisture.  On my 1981 (which I had surveyed by a professional 
since I was halfway across the country - a lot of good THAT did), the 
rust was there, and after I got the boat home I ended up with a bit of 
a re-core project (quite a bit of the bow under the pulpit, large areas 
under the jib tracks, the area under the mast step - which was crushed, 
not wet - and some places under the traveler bolts.


2) Transom.
On an older-style M-17 (pre-1981), I would check over the 
transom-to-hull area.  On that style M-17 the top of the transom does 
not have the (stronger) out-turned "lip" at the top edge of the 
transom, and on several I looked at I found cracking on the transom 
about a half inch in from the edges where they joined the topsides 
(sides of the hull above the waterline).  In other words, where the 
hull planking would join the transom planking if it were a wooden boat.

Happy shopping!

--- Rachel
Fatty Knees 7' #302
Former owner, M-17 #334
Former owner, M-15 #517


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