Outboard motors that leak oil into the cylinder in certain positions and consequently won't start are in my view fatally flawed because they will inevitably end up on the incorrect side occasionally. Sounds like Honda didn't think things through when making the transition from 2 to 4 cycle. I wonder what the company has to say for itself. Have they fixed the flaw? Someone who owns one should write the company on behalf of the group. As it is, they are getting a lot of really bad publicity among Montgomery fans.
Don't you just hate things that don't work? bob s. -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] m] On Behalf Of Shawn Boles Sent: Monday, August 14, 2006 6:43 AM To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats Subject: RE: M_Boats: Yamaha Outboard motor problem (Honda) Yep, you always want the motor 'correct side up' when on the mount out of the water - I have a fixed mount and found this out the hard way - cheers- Shawn Boles Grey Mist (M17 #276 1978) -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rachel Sent: Monday, August 14, 2006 5:01 AM To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats Subject: Re: M_Boats: Yamaha Outboard motor problem (Honda) (I haven't been following this thread, so pardon any duplication) Don, I had a similar episode with a Honda 2hp but since mine wasn't from laying it down on the wrong side, I thought I might mention it because what happened to me could potentially happen with it on an M-boat as well. In my case I was using the motor on an 8-foot inflatable dinghy. The dinghy was in the slip next to the "big" boat (30' sailboat) and the motor was on the dinghy, tilted in the "up" position to keep the prop out of the water. One morning I took the motor off the dinghy (hadn't used it for a couple of days) and mounted it on the stern rail of the big boat in preparation for departure. At that point I noticed that something was dripping from the motor and making rainbows on the water. Hmm, not good. Fuel cap was closed, vent was closed, gas lever was in "off" position.... Further investigation showed that oil and gas had gotten mixed together inside the motor. After a call to the dealer (the motor was relatively new) and some head-scratching, what we figured out was that when the motor was tilted up - and if it happened to be "flopped" to the side on the side most resembling the "wrong" side, then when the dinghy rocked on the occasional wake in the marina it caused things to happen inside the motor just as if it were laid down on the wrong side. Luckily we had caught it before trying to start the motor. I could easily see this happening on a boat as small as an M-15, as it moved around in a seaway or even in a slip. At that time we took care of the problem by only flopping the motor over to the "better" side when it was tilted up, and then securing it with a bungee cord so it wouldn't flop the other way. At that time (2001) I didn't see any mention of this possible problem in the owner's manual. FWIW, --- Rachel Fatty Knees 7' #302 Former owner, M-17 #334 Former owner, M-15 #517 On Aug 14, 2006, at 6:07 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Tim: > the other day I laid my Honda 4-stroke on the dock on the wrong side. I > noticed it immediately and turned it over but in the 8 seconds or so, > oil leaked > into the cylinder. I stood it up and found there was no oil showing in > the > sightglass. Oops! ..... > I will be a > lot more careful in the future when laying the motor down to make sure > that it > is on the correct side. > Don Ludlow M-15 #620 Sweet Dream _______________________________________________ http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats _______________________________________________ http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats _______________________________________________ http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats
