Thanks again for your help.

Jerry
--- Jerry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Howard, thanks for the detailed reply; your answers
> were really informative for me.
> I explored around the photos section some more and
> realized that the 17 comes with a forward hatch, but
> the 15 does not. Perhaps some kind of front vent
> could
> be installed. But apparently a lot of people find
> the
> ventilation in a 15 adequate. I especially enjoyed
> reading about Doug Kelch's travels in a 15. He has
> trailered and sailed a 15 from Maine to Key West,
> overnighting an average of 25 nights a year. (The
> Florida keys would be my dream trip, which appears
> quite doable in a 15.) I also saw several photos of
> boom tent type arrangements for rain, which seemed
> to
> work well. Your comments about riding out the rain
> in
> your boat as well as a tent were encouraging. Thanks
> also, for the comments about anchoring stern to the
> wind in light air. I'll have to remember that there
> is
> more breeze on the water than in a campground
> surrounded by tall trees.
> 
> Your netting arrangement seems to be a great idea
> for
> sleeping bug free.
> 
> I live in Birmingham Alabama and kayak camp near
> Pensacola, so I have not really observed what other
> sailers do about the frequent summer lightning
> storms.
> I'll be more observant next time I am down there. In
> my kayak, I get off the water onto a barrier island
> or
> other shore. Even so, I have had to crouch low for
> awhile beside the kayak in a couple of bad lightning
> storms, with strikes very close by. The flash and
> the
> boom occured simultaneously. Pretty scarry
> experience
> for me. I would feel more secure lowering the mast
> in
> those conditions, which could probably be done
> easier
> on a 15 than a 17.
> 
> I have had an offer to sail on a 15 in Mobile (4.5
> hr
> drive), and in October on a 17 which will be at
> Smith
> Lake, about an hour from my house. This is obviously
> a
> great group, and I cannot wait to take advantage of
> these generous offers. 
> 
> Thanks again for your comments, which have helped
> confirm that a small sailboat like the 15 or 17
> would
> be better for my purposes in the long run than a
> small
> cubby cabin powerboat which I also considered,
> because
> of the speed in avoiding storms and the lack of a
> mast
> in the air. 
> 
> If anyone else has any experience avoiding
> lightning,
> I would really appreciate your comments.
> 
> Jerry Renno
> 
> 
> --- Howard Audsley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > Seeing no other response, I'll take a swipe at
> this.
> > 
> > 
> > On Aug 23, 2006, at 12:22 PM, Jerry wrote:
> > 
> > > I am still new to the group and do not yet have
> a
> > > boat, but I do have some questions for those who
> > sleep
> > > aboard for a few nights in southern waters
> during
> > the
> > > summer. (Alabama, Florida, etc.)
> > >
> > > 1. How do you keep from roasting at night?
> > 
> > I cool off after hot day (is 90 to 100 with high
> > humidity hot?) by 
> > either taking a swim or using a small garden
> sprayer
> > to take a shower 
> > in the cockpit. Once cooled down, I don't usually
> > get hot, but I prefer 
> > hot to cold, so that doesn't bother me much. If
> > there is a breeze, you 
> > can anchor bow to wind and pop the hatch open to
> get
> > considerable 
> > ventilation going. Or in light air, anchor stern
> to
> > wind to get even 
> > more.  Cook outside in cockpit to keep heat out of
> > the cabin.
> > >
> > > 2. How do you keep out mosquitos? (without
> > roasting)
> > 
> > I built a light netting that fits the companionway
> > and seals it up. You 
> > can also get or make the kind of netting that
> > resembles a bag with lead 
> > weights on the perimeter to go over the forward
> > opening hatch. Not that 
> > much different from hiding out on the beach inside
> a
> > tent. Same 
> > ventilation techniques apply.
> > >
> > > 3. With lightning storms just about every
> > afternoon or
> > > evening, (Pensacola area) how do you stay safe
> > with a
> > > metal mast up in the  air? Do you ever take it
> > down
> > > while on the water during storms? Or do you
> beach
> > on a
> > > barrier island and get off the water?
> > 
> > Don't see much lightning. What do other boats in
> > that area do? A M15 
> > could probably be rigged to drop her mast
> relatively
> > easy and quickly.
> > >
> > > 4. Is staying on board still realistic in a
> > day-long
> > > rain?
> > 
> > As opposed to inside a tent? Most of us who
> > overnight much have rigged 
> > various forms of awnings, boom tents, etc. so that
> > the hatch can be 
> > left open during rain events. Some can even sit in
> > the cockpit and stay 
> > relatively dry. Tod Mills has a full enclosure for
> > his.  I've camped 
> > (both heavy tent camping and light backpacking)
> and
> > I can stay as dry 
> > and ride out rain as well in the boat as I can
> > camped. You won't be 
> > standing up inside the boat, of course, but unless
> > you are really 
> > packing heavy (full wall tent with enclosed
> > awnings), you don't stand 
> > up inside a tent either.
> > >
> > > I am used to camping in a campground near
> > Pensacola,
> > > where a good tent, and perhaps a fan in the tent
> > at
> > > night solves most of the above issues. I am
> still
> > > considering a Montgomery 15, but want to be sure
> > it
> > > won't turn out to be miserable instead of
> > wonderful
> > > spending a few nights on board.
> > 
> > Best solution is to ask to take a ride on one to
> > check it out for 
> > yourself. You may have to travel a bit, but if you
> > are going to make 
> > the investment in a boat, it might be worth the
> > effort.
> > 
> > Keep in mind these are small boats. Capable of a
> > lot, but in comparison 
> > to most boats, small. But if you realize this and
> > pack accordingly, and 
> > carefully stow things so you don't have to move
> them
> > around a lot, you 
> > quickly adapt to the size and all is well. A lot
> of
> > guys routinely do 
> > one and two week trips on them....some even
> longer,
> > with no real 
> > problems. A one or two week trip from Pensacola to
> > Mobile and back is 
> > entirely within the capability of this boat, but
> 
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