Thanks for the info. I've always had a fair amount of rake in the M-17
mast.  You can usually tell when you have gone "too far"!  The boat (any
boat) handles so much better when you are able to get it in balance.

> Jay,
>
> Jerry M says the more rake is better, within reason, on his boats.   I'm
> sure there is info on rake in the archives and probably the MSOG site.
>
> I wouldn't change a thing, if I were you.
>
> Bill Riker
> M-15 #184
> Storm Petrel
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> On Behalf Of Jay Townley
> Sent: Tuesday, December 26, 2006 7:13 PM
> To: 'For and about Montgomery Sailboats'
> Subject: M_Boats: Some general info on mast rake
>
> I pulled this info off of a couple of sites.  Mast rake is how far
> forward
> or aft your mast is at its top. Mast rake is important, because it is a
> major component in the boat's balance and feel. If the mast rake is off,
> you
> may end up with your rudder always slightly turned just to maintain your
> boat's heading. A rudder that's slightly turned is never as fast as one
> that's almost neutral (not much pressure on it when sailing). When you
> tack,
> you push the rudder way over, which slows the boat down because the
> rudder
> creates resistance with the water in order to make the boat turn.
> If the mast is raked too far aft. This moves the center of effort of the
> sails behind the center of effort of the foils, causing excessive weather
> helm and the boat may want to round up. If the mast is raked too far
> forward, moving the center of effort in the sails forward of the center
> of
> effort of the boat's foils. This causes excessive lee helm and the boat
> to
> want to fall off.
> In light air, a looser backstay tension makes the jib luff sag and become
> slightly fuller. As the windspeed increases, increase rake to prevent the
> boat from getting "bound". If you are pointing too much and going too
> slow,
> increase rake and loosen the helm up. If you are fast but not pointing,
> decrease your aft rake.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> com] On Behalf Of John Butler
> Sent: Tuesday, December 26, 2006 4:37 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: M_Boats: Re: M15's mast rake
>
> My #361 has a distinct rake aft. Is that normal? My shrouds go to the
> after hole in the chain plates. (The former owner had lifting hooks
> in the forward holes which I removed as catching hazards for the jib
> sheets.) Is a lot of rake normal, or should I move the shrouds to the
> forward hole?
>
> John Butler
>
> Do it now. You can't do it any younger!
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