Somehow I'm thinking I won't find many friends here on this but wanted to put 
this out there just the same as I think it's a good topic. I received a rather 
rude email this morning asking me the rhetorical question of if I thought my 
boat was priced too high. I asked the sender if this was supposed to be an 
intelligent question or if they were just trying to make a point. I pretty much 
sent the following email.

Perhaps you've heard the expression you get what you pay for?

It always amazes me how intelligent people fancy themselves when it comes to 
these boats. On the one hand there is almost a snobbery in regard to how much 
better they are than other boats of their size yet when they look for a used 
boat (buyers and voyeurs alike) they feel the price should be on par with the 
"inferior" (not my word) brand. Other brands in this size category sell in the 
$5k+ price range so why wouldn't good Monty's sell for more if they are indeed 
as most will say, a better built boat?

I recall a conversation I once had with the current builder of Montgomery's and 
in the discussion I off-handedly referred to the other most commonly associated 
brand, as being the same caliber of boat. At that point I thought I was being 
reprimanded by my own dad. I was duly and steadfastly reminded that 
Montgomery's were in no way in the same league or of the same caliber and that 
"these were real sailing boats not rowboats with sails".

My observation is people in the Montgomery used market sit around hoping a boat 
comes up for sale, preferably by some owner that can be taken advantage of who 
might not know the true market value, or they settle for a boat in rough and 
neglected shape then pat themselves on the back they only paid $5k but with a 
season of work ahead of them to make repairs and pretty them up.

Regardless that very good ones are out there and the trailers are in good 
working order, but that the price reflects the level of quality.

People even send emails in this very forum when they discover an M15 for sale 
at $5k or under eagerly wanting to share the find. As though gold bars have 
just been discovered at 50% off.

I have had a couple of people contact me, clearly knowing what I have listed 
the boat for, and yet only after exchanging some emails they say, oh it's a bit 
high for my budget despite their seeing the pictures and complementing how 
beautiful the condition my boat is in.

These people are silly in my opinion and frankly I think are only fishing to 
see if there's a sucker on the line. You either want a good quality used M15 or 
you don't. Your choice is to either buy a new one for $14k all in - and deal 
with the wait time - or buy an older, most likely abused or neglected 80's 
version, complete with steel shot keel, etc, for about $5k. As one person who 
contacted me put it, people usually sell boats when they aren't using them 
anymore. Most commonly this is correct and it more often translates to a boat 
that has indeed been left sitting outside in the weather to rot before taking 
the time to try and sell it.

An alternative is a well found 1991 boat, well cared for, garaged stored, bells 
and whistles such as lead ballast which has been preferred, extra rigging, and 
in ready to sail shape for a fair asking price IMHO. Yet in this niche market 
of buyers for these fine little yachts, there seems to have become an almost 
ignorant concept of what should be paid.

To answer the lame question my answer is obviously no. And since I am in no 
hurry to sell my boat I can afford to wait until an intelligent and reasonable 
new owner comes along. And frankly that's the kind of individual I'd prefer to 
sell the boat to anyway. If I even sell it at all.

I'm sure there will be several armchair replies to this email and most will 
more than likely slam me for having this opinion. But at the end of the day, 
the answer to the question of what is the true value of a Montgomery 15, is 
quite simply, whatever the right buyer is willing to pay.

Ashley
M15 #478


 
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