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Today's Topics:
1. Favorite Monty sailmaker? (brian gilbert)
2. Re: Favorite Monty sailmaker? (Bill Tosh)
3. Re: Favorite Monty sailmaker? (Howard Audsley)
4. RE: Favorite Monty sailmaker? (gilbert landin)
5. Re: Favorite Monty sailmaker? (Gary M Hyde)
6. tongue extension ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
7. Re: Favorite Monty sailmaker? (Larry E Yake)
8. Re: tongue extension (George Burmeyer)
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Message: 1
Date: Mon, 09 Jul 2007 05:41:10 -0700
From: brian gilbert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: M_Boats: Favorite Monty sailmaker?
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Hi All:
Here's a request for opinions for those of you who have replaced sails...
who is your favorite sailmaker who does mail-orders? (no local sailmakers
in
Chattanooga, TN)
I need to replace at least my main and possibly a jib as well. I've
ordered
from SailsEast before... the price was really good, and the cut and shape
were fine, but the finish and handwork was pretty minimal. I'd prefer to
spend a little more and get a well-built, longer lasting cruising sail.
I'm
wondering who else I should seek quotes from.
Thanks very much
BG
--
Brian Gilbert
Author, Fix It And Sail, The Complete Trailer-Sailor
Marine Media
3404 Hartford Dr
Chattanooga, TN 37415
www.sailingsmall.com
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Date: Sun, 08 Jul 2007 21:44:18 -0600
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Hi Tom,
I've raised my M17 off the trailer bunks using a floor jack and a
cushioning 2" x 6" piece of lumber under the keel. Worked fine.
Bones
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Message: 2
Date: Mon, 9 Jul 2007 08:00:21 -0500
From: "Bill Tosh" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: M_Boats: Favorite Monty sailmaker?
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Try T C Boats.com 903-743-5555 Rusk, TX.
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From: brian gilbert
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Sent: Monday, July 09, 2007 7:41 AM
Subject: M_Boats: Favorite Monty sailmaker?
Hi All:
Here's a request for opinions for those of you who have replaced sails...
who is your favorite sailmaker who does mail-orders? (no local sailmakers
in
Chattanooga, TN)
I need to replace at least my main and possibly a jib as well. I've
ordered
from SailsEast before... the price was really good, and the cut and shape
were fine, but the finish and handwork was pretty minimal. I'd prefer to
spend a little more and get a well-built, longer lasting cruising sail.
I'm
wondering who else I should seek quotes from.
Thanks very much
BG
--
Brian Gilbert
Author, Fix It And Sail, The Complete Trailer-Sailor
Marine Media
3404 Hartford Dr
Chattanooga, TN 37415
www.sailingsmall.com
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Date: Sun, 08 Jul 2007 21:44:18 -0600
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Hi Tom,
I've raised my M17 off the trailer bunks using a floor jack and a
cushioning 2" x 6" piece of lumber under the keel. Worked fine.
Bones
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Message: 3
Date: Mon, 9 Jul 2007 08:15:06 -0500
From: Howard Audsley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: M_Boats: Favorite Monty sailmaker?
To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats
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In the past few years, I've purchased 4 new headsails and a new main.
My storm jib came from Ullman, San Diego. (Tom)
http://www.ullmansails.com/lofts.html#sandiego
My new 155 genny and asymmetrical spinnaker came from Elliot-Pattison,
who I believe is Bob's sailmaker at present:
http://www.epsails.com/
My full batten main and working jib came from Kern Ferguson, who I
understood has retired and is no longer making sails.
Out of all of them, I think the Ullman sail was the best built, best
performing.
Even so, Since I've owned the boat, I've gotten the best performance
out of my original Reggie Armstrong main and working jib. Right up to
the point the 20 year old sails blew out (literally). I still have them
and would love to find someone to make me an exact replica....same
size, same cut, same reinforcement points, etc.
With the old RA sails, I can remember being out in a good breeze with
occasional whitecaps breaking and flying the full main and jib and
doing 5.5 knots plus, going to weather, and heeled to maybe 15 degrees.
With my current setup, I heel more at less speed and never get much
over 5 knots to weather. A big part of it is the Kern sails are higher
profile and I think cut flatter. The working jib goes all the way to
the masthead and the main has some additional roach in it. It will hang
on the backstay in light air.
On a related note, I was out over the weekend and flying the 155 and
full main in light to moderate air (5 to 10 knots). I was sailing with
a smaller boat and trying to slow down, I didn't crank the genny in
tight and left the main soft (front half luffing). The slowing down
part didn't work. I was sailing flat and doing 4 knots plus to weather
and she was pointing nearly as high as ever. The lesson was to sail her
"freed" up a bit.....I wasn't pointing as high, but with more speed and
less leeway, I got to weather faster.
Howard
M17, #278
Audasea
On Jul 9, 2007, at 7:41 AM, brian gilbert wrote:
Hi All:
Here's a request for opinions for those of you who have replaced
sails...
who is your favorite sailmaker who does mail-orders? (no local
sailmakers in
Chattanooga, TN)
I need to replace at least my main and possibly a jib as well. I've
ordered
from SailsEast before... the price was really good, and the cut and
shape
were fine, but the finish and handwork was pretty minimal. I'd prefer
to
spend a little more and get a well-built, longer lasting cruising
sail. I'm
wondering who else I should seek quotes from.
Thanks very much
BG
--
Brian Gilbert
Author, Fix It And Sail, The Complete Trailer-Sailor
Marine Media
3404 Hartford Dr
Chattanooga, TN 37415
www.sailingsmall.com
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Date: Sun, 08 Jul 2007 21:44:18 -0600
To: [email protected]
Subject: montgomery_boats Digest, Vol 53, Issue 6
Hi Tom,
I've raised my M17 off the trailer bunks using a floor jack and a
cushioning 2" x 6" piece of lumber under the keel. Worked fine.
Bones
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Message: 4
Date: Mon, 9 Jul 2007 17:32:52 -0500
From: "gilbert landin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: RE: M_Boats: Favorite Monty sailmaker?
To: "'For and about Montgomery Sailboats'"
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TC boats did mine in Tan Bark, and I am quite pleased...For best results
send in your old ones.
Gilbert
Sagitta M17 1974
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Sent: Monday, July 09, 2007 7:41 AM
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Subject: M_Boats: Favorite Monty sailmaker?
Hi All:
Here's a request for opinions for those of you who have replaced sails...
who is your favorite sailmaker who does mail-orders? (no local sailmakers
in
Chattanooga, TN)
I need to replace at least my main and possibly a jib as well. I've
ordered
from SailsEast before... the price was really good, and the cut and shape
were fine, but the finish and handwork was pretty minimal. I'd prefer to
spend a little more and get a well-built, longer lasting cruising sail.
I'm
wondering who else I should seek quotes from.
Thanks very much
BG
--
Brian Gilbert
Author, Fix It And Sail, The Complete Trailer-Sailor
Marine Media
3404 Hartford Dr
Chattanooga, TN 37415
www.sailingsmall.com
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Date: Sun, 08 Jul 2007 21:44:18 -0600
To: [email protected]
Subject: montgomery_boats Digest, Vol 53, Issue 6
Hi Tom,
I've raised my M17 off the trailer bunks using a floor jack and a
cushioning 2" x 6" piece of lumber under the keel. Worked fine.
Bones
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Message: 5
Date: Mon, 9 Jul 2007 17:18:41 -0700
From: Gary M Hyde <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: M_Boats: Favorite Monty sailmaker?
To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats
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I'm very satisfied with the performance of the Elliott-Pattison sails
that came with my 2005 M17. The roller-reefing genoa is cut so that I
don't have to move the jib sheet turning block when I reef.
Having trouble keeping the main slugs attached is the only down side.
--Gary Hyde
2005 M17 sailboat #637 'Hydeaway 2'
We can't change the wind, but we can trim our sails.
On Jul 9, 2007, at 3:32 PM, gilbert landin wrote:
TC boats did mine in Tan Bark, and I am quite pleased...For best
results
send in your old ones.
Gilbert
Sagitta M17 1974
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Sent: Monday, July 09, 2007 7:41 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: M_Boats: Favorite Monty sailmaker?
Hi All:
Here's a request for opinions for those of you who have replaced
sails...
who is your favorite sailmaker who does mail-orders? (no local
sailmakers in
Chattanooga, TN)
I need to replace at least my main and possibly a jib as well. I've
ordered
from SailsEast before... the price was really good, and the cut and
shape
were fine, but the finish and handwork was pretty minimal. I'd
prefer to
spend a little more and get a well-built, longer lasting cruising
sail. I'm
wondering who else I should seek quotes from.
Thanks very much
BG
--
Brian Gilbert
Author, Fix It And Sail, The Complete Trailer-Sailor
Marine Media
3404 Hartford Dr
Chattanooga, TN 37415
www.sailingsmall.com
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Date: Sun, 08 Jul 2007 21:44:18 -0600
To: [email protected]
Subject: montgomery_boats Digest, Vol 53, Issue 6
Hi Tom,
I've raised my M17 off the trailer bunks using a floor jack and a
cushioning 2" x 6" piece of lumber under the keel. Worked fine.
Bones
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Message: 6
Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2007 03:09:19 +0000
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Subject: M_Boats: tongue extension
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Hi all,
I have a Trail-rite trailer and was wondering if any of you have added a
tongue extension for your
Trail-rite. What has been your experience? Thanks.
Dan Mostue
M15 #500
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Message: 7
Date: Mon, 9 Jul 2007 20:31:37 -0700
From: Larry E Yake <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: M_Boats: Favorite Monty sailmaker?
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I've had good luck with Yager Sails. www.yagersails.com He made my 150
roller furler genoa five years ago and it has been a great sail. This
year I had him make me a new main and a 180 drifter. Both are quality
made with attention to detail. Excellent foil shape. There are cheaper
sailmakers out there, but I think he's worth the extra cost. A big plus
for me is that he's only an hour away (in Spokane, Wa.) and we can
discuss the details in person. If you want to see pictures of my sails,
check out the various San Juan 2007 cruise photo sites that have been
listed.
Larry
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Message: 8
Date: Mon, 9 Jul 2007 23:47:55 -0700
From: George Burmeyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: M_Boats: tongue extension
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Dan,
I have a Trail-rite also, and one of the first things I did when I
got my 15 was take the trailer to a commercial welder and have an
extension built. They cut off the couple and tongue, welded on a
hefty square tube about two feet long and made a seven foot hollow
steel bar that slides into the tube where it is held in place by a
standard half inch hitch pin. A new coupler was welded to one end of
the sliding tongue. They did a nice job and returned it to me with
all the parts painted to match the rest of the trailer, new safety
chains, coupler and hitch pin. Cost about $400 U.S. parts and labor.
Procedure at the ramp is to deploy the jack (I use a swing-back
model), block the wheels, unhitch the trailer, lights and safety
chains, remove the hitch pin from the extension, pull the extension
out and re-insert the hitch pin into a hole in the after end, hook up
to the vehicle and swing the jack out of the way. I use a stout
extra long dock line tied off to the bow cleat and tied off to the
truck for safety (no chains with tongue extended) and so I can
unhook the winch from the bow eye and control the boat dry-footed as
it floats off. Pretty straightforward really and sounds more
complicated than it is. All this only takes about ten minutes extra.
It is best to rig the boat with the tongue in its road position to
avoid strain on the extension. Also I do not recommend jumping into
the stern of the boat while it is on the trailer with the tongue
extended as this can exert enough force to pop the coupler off the
hitch ball. Do not ask me how I know this.
I always remove the tongue when the boat is put away in the garage.
It stows neatly out of the way on the trailer cross members and gives
an extra foot of clearance. It also avoids any possibility of the
extension rusting tight in the tube.
All said, I am very happy with this mod. It is simple and elegant and
has allowed me to sail off shallow ramps and retrieve at low tides
while keeping my truck out of the brine.
Cheers
George
"Haiku" 1986 M15 #385
Santa Rosa, CA
On Jul 9, 2007, at 8:09 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi all,
I have a Trail-rite trailer and was wondering if any of you have
added a tongue extension for your
Trail-rite. What has been your experience? Thanks.
Dan Mostue
M15 #500
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