Tom:
The Forester 2.5 XT is a 2004 with automatic transmission. I ordered surge disk brakes from Pacific Trailer when I ordered the trailer. The brakes were $575 installed, and are galvanized and stainless steel. The work very well. I got disk rather than drum because they don't get grease buildup and are easy to rinse the salt water off of.

--Gary Hyde
2005 M17 sailboat #637 'Hydeaway 2'
We can't change the wind, but we can trim our sails.


On Nov 29, 2007, at 9:18 AM, Tom Jenkins wrote:



Gary,

I too have been impressed with the Forester as a tow vehicle (I pulled my Potter 14 from California to Alaska with no problems), so I would be tempted to follow in your footsteps with a new Forester turbo for my 17. How did you get surge brakes on your trailer? Was it a special-order or modified Pacific, or another brand? Is your car a 5-speed manual or an automatic? (Manual transmissions, in my experience, are good at slowing a load down on steep grades with or without surge brakes, but my experience with automatics
is limited.)

Thanks much for passing on your experiences.

Tom Jenkins
M17 Scintilla

-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gary M
Hyde
Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2007 1:58 PM
To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats
Subject: Re: M_Boats: Has anyone pulled a M 15 with a Subaru?

I pulled an M15 with a standard 2.5 liter Subaru Forester with all
the gear in the boat and the 2hp Honda on the transom bracket, no
problem. Crossed the Washington Cascades with it.

I pull my M17 with all gear aboard and motor mounted on bracket with
a Forester 2.5 XT (turbo, 210 hp) with no problem, but I have surge
disk brakes on the trailer. It works great! The problem with towing
is more often stopping than pulling; trailer brakes are very
important when towing with a small car, IMHO.

--Gary Hyde
2005 M17 sailboat #637 'Hydeaway 2'
We can't change the wind, but we can trim our sails.


On Nov 15, 2007, at 7:03 AM, Doug Kelch wrote:

I pulled my M15 with a 2000 Forester for a couple of years.  Up and
down the Pennsylvannia hills on numerous occasions.  It does slow
down on the the long hills but does quite well overall.

I keep and tow with a fair amount of gear in the boat.  I keep the
sails, bumpers, 3 anchors, car battery, lots of extra line, light
food (non-canned), sleeping bags, two wisker poles, fishing
equiptment, stove and kitchen supplies and a junk box.

I keep the dense items in the back of the tow vehicle - gas,
engines, water, and tools.

Thanks

Doug Kelch

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have a M 15 and pull it with a 2006
Subaru Forester.   I haven't pulled it
over any steep mountain passes yet.   Have any of you had any
experience
pulling a M 15 with a Subaru?   I hope I do not need to put brakes
on the trailer.

Thank you,
Bert Felton
M 15, #365,Zephyr


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