Yes, it was the west coast that concerned him. I understand that the
weather there can give the roaring 40s a run for its money.

cheers,
Shawn Boles
Grey Mist (M17 #276 1978)

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David Scobie
Sent: Friday, December 07, 2007 11:07 AM
To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats
Subject: RE: M_Boats: M15 :Wild Conditions

was the survey specific about which part of the trip the craft was
'unfit'?
   
  my guess is that the concern would be west of the island.  i have
friends that have taken larger craft, 32' + sail and motor boats, around
the island.  they said that things can get interesting in a blow on the
west coast.  the east side of the passage is 'easy' as one has multiple
options for finding shelter.
   
   
  dave scobie
  M15 #288
  

Shawn Boles <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
  Hi:

Back when I was somewhat younger, and much more foolish, I considered
single-handing a 17 around Vancouver Island. I contacted a surveyor to
see what needed to be done to prepare the boat. He did the survey, but
strongly advised against the plan. He used a surveyor's term that stuck
with me - "The boat is manifestly unfit for the journey". Lyle Hess
designed boats to come back, but there appear to be conditions that even
tough little Monty's should avoid.


cheers,
Shawn Boles
Grey Mist (M17 #276 1978)


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Frank Durant
Sent: Friday, December 07, 2007 4:54 AM
To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats
Subject: Re: M_Boats: M15 :Wild Conditions

I thoght I would pose the question to John Welsford, a respected small
craft 
designer....."how would a 15ft boat like an M15 handle these 
conditions...45-50 knot winds,open ocean,32ft+ waves"...he
responded..."I've 
only seen pictures in magazines of a Monty 15, but expect that its
fairly typical in construction for a small moulded glass boat and
perhaps a
little better than most of its size in seaworthiness. But the
conditions
you describe are going to roll that boat, over and over! The only way to
control that is a parachute sea anchor holding her dead bow on, and that
needs to be streamed off the bow and be big enough to haul the boat
bodily
through each wave. Now the question will be, whats happening to the
boats
stability when that happens, and is the hull strong enough to take the
loads
of the sea anchor line and the crushing action of the wave as it goes
through the crests.
I dont think a skipper of one of those is going to be a good prospect
from
the point of view of a life insurance company"
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From: "Frank Durant" 
To: "For and about Montgomery Sailboats" 

Sent: Tuesday, December 04, 2007 9:43 PM
Subject: Re: M_Boats: M15 :Wild Conditions


>
> Found the post in 'deleted"...here it is...."Hey, since we're
comparing 
> weather notes, it is currently blowing 45 kts
> with gusts over 50 with wave heights of 32' at 9 second intervals 16
miles
> off the Oregon coast. It's raining too. Coastal headlands are seeing
> sustained winds of 80+ mph with gusts up to 109!! The Oregon coast can
be
> somewhat inhospitable to small boat sailors this time of year! These
> conditions have been consistent all day and will continue until
tomorrow
> evening." ...............45 knots, gusting over 50,wave heights of 
> 32ft/9 second intervals...sustained over a period of time
offshore/open 
> water=violent !! How would any 750lb boat handle...."any way the water

> wanted it to"
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