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>    6. RE: Furler jib (Tom Jenkins)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Fri, 8 Feb 2008 23:08:46 EST
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> Subject: Re: M_Boats: Flathead lake, Montana sailing
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> I sailed my M17 on Flathead lake in 1988 for 5 days.  It is a very scenic 
> lake about 20 miles long (if  failing memory serves) set in a basin 
> surrounded 
> by 
> tall and beautiful mountains.  There are some fairly shallows area but there 
> is just enough water to sail. The main part of the lake is very deep. There 
> is 
> a Marina at the northern edge where we put in and sailed the length of the 
> lake south to the group of islands including No Horse island.  Back then only 
> one of the islands had any development on them, and when we anchored in a 
> small 
> cove a couple of BIG buck mule deer walked along the edge of the shore within 
> 30 yards of us.  The water is COLD so don't expect to swim in it, and be 
> careful, because the lake is set in a valley, storms can comin elevation that 
> the 
> sailing season is short.  I think we were there in August and were very glad 
> to 
> have sleeping bags at night.  Hope this helps, let me know if you have any 
> particular questions and I'll try to answer them
> 
> John Edwards
> MissT 
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> Date: Sat, 9 Feb 2008 01:01:05 EST
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> Subject: Re: M_Boats: Flathead lake, Montana sailing
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> Rick and I are both Flathead Lake natives, grew up there,  and took  our 
> first sailing lessons there out of Dayton, near Wild Horse Island.   Flathead 
> Lake 
> is big, beautiful and can have some very nice wind. Usually  good breeze in 
> the morning and late afternoon.  There are just a few  destinations though, 
> few 
> parks and few marinas as most is privately owned, but  they are available. 
> Dayton has a nice sailing club and is usually available  to stay at. Polson 
> at 
> the south end of the lake has now at least 2  marinas with available slips.  
> The swimming is fine Mid July through early  September, a little chilly in 
> June. 
>  The storms do happen, but usually with  fair warning.  The first time we 
> took a boat out alone, the instructor said  "It looks a little marginal 
> today" 
> and we managed to broach the thing, yet lived  to laugh about it.  I'm always 
> amazed at how little boat traffic is on this  lake.  Absolutely gorgeous when 
> the weather is nice.  If you need  names of businesses, just let us know.  We 
> have to haul the boat there from  Spokane at least once a year to go sailing 
> or 
> the summer just wouldn't be the  same...
>  
> Melanie
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> Date: Sat, 9 Feb 2008 21:59:06 +0000
> From: Ben Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> Hello, 
>        My name is Ben and I am new to this mailing list. I do not currently 
> own 
> a Montgomery but am looking to buy a 17. I live in Boston which I have 
> decided 
> is one of the worst places to live if you are looking to buy one. Anyway, 
> thanks 
> for welcoming me to this mailing list and fair winds.
> 
> 
> Thanks,
> 
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> Date: Sat, 9 Feb 2008 18:28:15 -0800
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> Welcome aboard Ben.  t
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> Hello, 
>        My name is Ben and I am new to this mailing list. I do not currently
> own a Montgomery but am looking to buy a 17. I live in Boston which I have
> decided is one of the worst places to live if you are looking to buy one.
> Anyway, thanks for welcoming me to this mailing list and fair winds.
> 
> 
> Thanks,
> 
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> Date: Sun, 10 Feb 2008 07:59:54 -0800 (PST)
> From: Doug Kelch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> Ben,
> 
> Welcome aboard!
> 
> Several of the East Coast Montgomery boats have had some outstanding cruising 
> in 
> Buzzard's Bay and the Islands.  
> 
> A great area for a Montgomery 17.
> 
> Good luck in your search.
> 
> Doug Kelch
> M15 "Seas the Day"
> 
> Ben Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 
> Hello, 
>        My name is Ben and I am new to this mailing list. I do not currently 
> own 
> a Montgomery but am looking to buy a 17. I live in Boston which I have 
> decided 
> is one of the worst places to live if you are looking to buy one. Anyway, 
> thanks 
> for welcoming me to this mailing list and fair winds.
> 
> 
> Thanks,
> 
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> Message: 6
> Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2008 14:34:21 -0800
> From: "Tom Jenkins" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: RE: M_Boats: Furler jib
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> Gary,
> 
> Got a question on CDI furlers. 
> I think a furler is a great idea for boats kept in a slip or stored mast-up
> on a trailer, but I would like the option of removing the setup for long
> trips with lots of stops at different lakes. Seems like this would save wear
> and tear on my body and the equipment.
>  I bought my boat with the furler installed, so I am wondering if the
> headstay can be removed by taking off the anti-rotation strap, removing the
> drum cover and turnbuckle, and slipping the stay out the top of the luff
> extrusion.  According to my reasoning (= wishful thinking), the sail would
> be left furled on the luff during this procedure, and the stay could be
> easily re-inserted from the top to activate the rig again.  Am I missing
> anything?
> Thanks for any advice you can offer.
> 
> Tom Jenkins
> M17 Scintilla       
> 
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> Sent: Friday, February 08, 2008 1:38 PM
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> Subject: Re: M_Boats: Furler jib
> 
> Rick:
> I went with the 150 because I sail in a lot of light summer air too.  
> Elliot-Pattinson made me a good sail. I had the foam added because we  
> forgot it in the initial order. I also had the sun shield (I guess you  
> call it that) to protect the sail when it's rolled up.
> --Gary
> On Feb 7, 2008, at 5:12 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
> > Gary,
> >
> > Thanks for the input, and that brings up another decision - should I  
> > go for a
> > 135% or a 150%?   The price difference is pretty small, and the 150%  
> > would
> > give better sailing in the Mid-Atlantic doldrums of July and  
> > August.   I had
> > thought that the limit of effective reefing was around a 25%  
> > reduction, which,
> > starting with a 150% still leaves a lot of sail up.   I'm hoping to  
> > use the sail
> > over a wide range of conditions single-handing, so it seemed that  
> > the 135%
> > might be the best compromise, but maybe I need to rethink it.
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Rick
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> Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2008 15:36:25 -0800 (PST)
> From: Doug Kelch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: RE: M_Boats: Furler jib - sail size?
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> I came accross a comment on roller reefing sail size at 
> http://www.yachtworks.net/Store/headsail_furling.htm
>    
>   and thought I would share it for the discussion.
>    
>   "        Sail Selection       One area of caution: we think you can 
> effectively reduce your headsail area by about 30%-from a 130% to a 100%-but 
> not 
> much further. We've all seen ads in sailing magazines which imply that your 
> 150% 
> genoa can be rolled into a storm jib, but that is nonsense. If you sail in an 
> area where the prevailing winds are light in one season and heavy in another, 
> you'll probably want two furling headsails: a 135% and a 110%, for example. "
>    
>   Thanks
>    
>   Doug Kelch
> 
> 
> Tom Jenkins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>   Gary,
> 
> Got a question on CDI furlers. 
> I think a furler is a great idea for boats kept in a slip or stored mast-up
> on a trailer, but I would like the option of removing the setup for long
> trips with lots of stops at different lakes. Seems like this would save wear
> and tear on my body and the equipment.
> I bought my boat with the furler installed, so I am wondering if the
> headstay can be removed by taking off the anti-rotation strap, removing the
> drum cover and turnbuckle, and slipping the stay out the top of the luff
> extrusion. According to my reasoning (= wishful thinking), the sail would
> be left furled on the luff during this procedure, and the stay could be
> easily re-inserted from the top to activate the rig again. Am I missing
> anything?
> Thanks for any advice you can offer.
> 
> Tom Jenkins
> M17 Scintilla 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gary M
> Hyde
> Sent: Friday, February 08, 2008 1:38 PM
> To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats
> Subject: Re: M_Boats: Furler jib
> 
> Rick:
> I went with the 150 because I sail in a lot of light summer air too. 
> Elliot-Pattinson made me a good sail. I had the foam added because we 
> forgot it in the initial order. I also had the sun shield (I guess you 
> call it that) to protect the sail when it's rolled up.
> --Gary
> On Feb 7, 2008, at 5:12 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
> > Gary,
> >
> > Thanks for the input, and that brings up another decision - should I 
> > go for a
> > 135% or a 150%? The price difference is pretty small, and the 150% 
> > would
> > give better sailing in the Mid-Atlantic doldrums of July and 
> > August. I had
> > thought that the limit of effective reefing was around a 25% 
> > reduction, which,
> > starting with a 150% still leaves a lot of sail up. I'm hoping to 
> > use the sail
> > over a wide range of conditions single-handing, so it seemed that 
> > the 135%
> > might be the best compromise, but maybe I need to rethink it.
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Rick
> >
> >
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