What is the significants of Hooper's boatyard with Montgomery yachts? The name
keeps coming up when I do google searches for Montys? Are they a distributor?
Thanks,
Ben
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> Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2008 07:05:02 -0800
> From: "Tim Diebert"> Subject: M_Boats: Winter Dreams
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> After seeing Larry's post on his Dream Boat...it reminded me I had intended
> to do some research on another Lyle small boat design. The Falmouth Cutter.
> Little sister to the Bristol Channel Cutter and very distant relative of the
> 17 and 23 I expect.
> I came across this..a 5 hour drive away. In my old home marina.
> http://www.thunderbirdmarine.com/boat-info.php?ID=3028
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> Almost as nice as the new deck M23..
>
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> Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2008 07:19:42 -0800
> From: "Tim Diebert"> Subject: M_Boats: Cardinal Sin
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> May this would be the wrong place to axe this question...... I am sure there
> are Mboat owners in the same position....but.....
> SWMBO suggested to me that a bit more room inside the boat would be more to
> her liking. More than a 17.
>
> At first thought, a new M23 comes to mind....but I am not quite flush enough
> to both purchase the boat....then the vehicle capable of towing it.
>
> So my question to you is: What choices might there be out there that is
> slightly larger than a 17, is fast, seaworthy/ well built, beautiful,
> trailerable and brings as much pride of ownership as an M17?
>
> I have been looking but have not been inspired by anything I would consider
> actually buying and giving up our 17 for.
>
> Cheers, Tim D in Kelowna BC
>
>
>
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> Message: 3
> Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2008 07:44:47 -0800 (PST)
> From: Doug Kelch> Subject: Re: M_Boats: Cardinal Sin
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> Tim,
>
> I also think about moving up to a M23 some day but as new it doesn't fit my
> budget.
>
> Other choices might be:
> Nimble 20 - doesn't sail as well as Montgomery but not much does
> Rob Roy 23 - I am partial to traditional looking canoe yawls
> Etap 21 - modern, fast, room and not many used ones around.
>
> Then there are the new wood/epoxy boats that show up ocassionaly.
> There was a Bolger Blueberry - 20 ft, Gaff Cutter - that went for a mere
> $6000 - a very pretty boat and fine cruiser
>
> Enjoy the search.
>
> Doug Kelch
>
>
>
> Tim Diebert wrote: May this would be the wrong place to axe this
> question...... I am sure there
> are Mboat owners in the same position....but.....
> SWMBO suggested to me that a bit more room inside the boat would be more to
> her liking. More than a 17.
>
> At first thought, a new M23 comes to mind....but I am not quite flush enough
> to both purchase the boat....then the vehicle capable of towing it.
>
> So my question to you is: What choices might there be out there that is
> slightly larger than a 17, is fast, seaworthy/ well built, beautiful,
> trailerable and brings as much pride of ownership as an M17?
>
> I have been looking but have not been inspired by anything I would consider
> actually buying and giving up our 17 for.
>
> Cheers, Tim D in Kelowna BC
>
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> Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2008 08:51:59 -0800 (PST)
> From: W David Scobie> Subject: Re: M_Boats: Cardinal Sin
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> don't know if the www-site is still up-to-date ... M23 'sea cutter' is still
> listed -
>
> http://www.sailingtexas.com/smontgomery23a.html
>
>
> dave scobie
> M15 #288, not yet named
>
> Tim Diebert wrote:
> May this would be the wrong place to axe this question...... I am sure there
> are Mboat owners in the same position....but.....
> SWMBO suggested to me that a bit more room inside the boat would be more to
> her liking. More than a 17.
>
> At first thought, a new M23 comes to mind....but I am not quite flush enough
> to both purchase the boat....then the vehicle capable of towing it.
>
> So my question to you is: What choices might there be out there that is
> slightly larger than a 17, is fast, seaworthy/ well built, beautiful,
> trailerable and brings as much pride of ownership as an M17?
>
> I have been looking but have not been inspired by anything I would consider
> actually buying and giving up our 17 for.
>
> Cheers, Tim D in Kelowna BC
>
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> Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2008 09:10:27 -0800
> From: "Tom "> Subject: RE: M_Boats: Cardinal Sin
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> Lots of good boats out there, I think. If I was going to bump up a couple
> more feet, didn't want to spend a fortune, but wanted something fast, I'd
> look for a Cal 20. t
>
> -----Original Message-----
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> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tim
> Diebert
> Sent: Friday, February 15, 2008 7:20 AM
> To: 'For and about Montgomery Sailboats'
> Subject: M_Boats: Cardinal Sin
>
> May this would be the wrong place to axe this question...... I am sure there
> are Mboat owners in the same position....but.....
> SWMBO suggested to me that a bit more room inside the boat would be more to
> her liking. More than a 17.
>
> At first thought, a new M23 comes to mind....but I am not quite flush enough
> to both purchase the boat....then the vehicle capable of towing it.
>
> So my question to you is: What choices might there be out there that is
> slightly larger than a 17, is fast, seaworthy/ well built, beautiful,
> trailerable and brings as much pride of ownership as an M17?
>
> I have been looking but have not been inspired by anything I would consider
> actually buying and giving up our 17 for.
>
> Cheers, Tim D in Kelowna BC
>
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> Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2008 09:37:13 -0800
> From: "Chris and Jeff Packer"> Subject: M_Boats: wire rope for rigging
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> Any thoughts about the quality of US manufactured SS 1x19 wire rope vs Korean
> manufactured wire rope. All I know is that there is a big difference in
> price. I can buy 3/16" SS 304 1x19 Loos wire rope from West Marine for about
> $2.00 per foot, or the same wire rope manufactured in Korea at Fisheries
> Supply in Seattle for about $.70 per foot. Big difference in price! Looking
> to buy for new standing rigging for my M-23.
>
> Any riggers out there with experience and recommendations?
>
> Jeff
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> Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2008 12:40:36 EST
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> Contact Jerry Montgomery at [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> he can set you on the right direction.
>
> Gary O
> M-17 #316a
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> Message: 8
> Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2008 10:19:46 -0800
> From: Gary M Hyde> Subject: Re: M_Boats: 1971 Flicka 20' Benford, ferro
> cement hull
> Sailboat with H.D. trailer
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> Larry! You need a project like that!
> --Gary
> On Feb 14, 2008, at 8:44 PM, Larry E Yake wrote:
>
>> http://seattle.craigslist.org/kit/boa/570016807.html
>>
>> Anybody interested in a cheap Flicka?
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> Message: 9
> Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2008 20:54:36 GMT
> From: "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"> Subject: Re: M_Boats: Cardinal Sin
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> Hi Tim and Listers,
>
> Here is how this "more room" scenario played out for me.
> Being very happy with my M17 in around 1999, I learned from this list a local
> sailor, Theo Petron, had purchased an M23 in San Diego and was having it
> shipped to Minnesota. I had seen an M23 before in Hooper's boatyard years
> ago, on a trailer, and was shocked about how much larger it seemed than an
> M17. One of the yardmen commented that "the owner has had this boat all over,
> he trailers it all around the midwest and also sails Superior". Wow.
> I asked Theo on line if I could come up to White Bear Lake and check out his
> new purchase. Being a warm hearted fellow Monty sailor (Theo had owned an
> M17), he quickly agreed and invited me up. My wife Nancy and I boarded, Theo
> handed us a cold beer, and started showing us around. He was busy cleaning,
> re-arranging, stowing, etc on his new vessel.
> Nancy and I moved below, she was able to stand easily, parked herself on the
> settee, looked around, and said "Oh Bones, we NEED one of these"!
> Well, not wanting to disappoint, I began searching. I actually found 2 in
> WI. Randy Palmer's sold before I got to view her, and Bill Wier's was out of
> my budget.
> But, in 2001 I did strike a deal with Larry Barkoff to become the next owner
> of Dick Lane's wonderful "Sadhana". I think it took me less than 30 seconds
> to decide after stepping aboard that it was sold.
> Two months later I rented a truck and hauled her from Lake Mead, NV to Mpls,
> Mn. Took 3 days.
> This will be my 7th season with an M23.
> I certainly wish Jerry would have made more of them. It seems alot of M17
> sailors would like to take the step to her big sister.
> Theo and I have become best of friends, and he still proudly sails his M23.
> We recently discovered another one in Minnesota, I have not seen her yet but
> hope to track the owner down this summer. Reportedly she has a blue hull, and
> I thought mine was the only one!
> Anyway, I hope all the Monty diehards out there that dream of finding an M23,
> persist, search, wheel and deal until one becomes theirs.
>
> Later,
>
> Bones
> M23 #75
> M17 #92
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