So forgive me on the confusion but I don't yet own a Montgomery. Are these
boats made with foam in them to give them buoyancy even if knocked down (like a
Boston Whaler)? What is the extent of a Montgomery's reserve buoyancy, what is
installed at the factory?
Thanks,
Ben
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> 1. Re: M_17 Strawanza makes it to French Polynesia (E. Tony Reed)
> 2. blue water M17 (alien)
> 3. Re: from Kendall (Don Haas)
> 4. Wet lockers...question from Kendall ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
> 5. Re: Wet lockers...question from Kendall (W David Scobie)
> 6. Re: Wet lockers...question from Kendall (Gary M Hyde)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2008 08:15:11 -0600
> From: "E. Tony Reed"
> Subject: Re: M_Boats: M_17 Strawanza makes it to French Polynesia
> To: "'For and about Montgomery Sailboats'"
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> Bob,
>
> An amazing story and certainly speaks well of the Montgomery 17. More
> importantly, it leaves not doubt about the ability of your shop to build a
> blue water boat all in 17 feet.
>
> I will anxious to hear more about this trip.
>
> Best Regards,
>
> Tony Reed
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bob From
> California
> Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2008 9:55 AM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: M_Boats: M_17 Strawanza makes it to French Polynesia
>
>
> Hello Montgomery sailors..!
>
> We got a message from Wilhelm and he made it non-stop to
>
> "Rititea" (Gambier Island) on Feb 20th. (He left San Diego the
>
> day after Thanksgiving. (November 23rd 2007)
>
> He said he feels good and will start again in 2 weeks to
>
> Austral Island (French Polynesia) and New Caledonia. From
>
> there he will cross to Australia.
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gambier_Islands
>
> For those who are new on the list; Willy is singlehanding his
>
> Montgomery 17 to Africa. He provisioned the boat with
>
> enough food and water for 100 days. (He also had a hand
>
> operated water maker). It appears he just did 90 days
>
> solo crossing this portion of the Pacific.....WOW...
>
> Congradulations Willi......!!
>
> http://www.msogphotosite.com/mpage.html
>
> Fair winds
>
> Bob Eeg
> (949) 489-8227
>
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> Message: 2
> Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2008 09:19:45 -0600
> From: "alien"
> Subject: M_Boats: blue water M17
> To:
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> Hi Bob, I find the trip to Africa very interesting and wish we could hear
> more details. Although this a very significant voyage, a complete circle
> would do so much more to inform the public of your wonderful boat.
> I do have trouble thinking of where he could have had a 90 day passage going
> East to West between the 30's.
> I find this site interesting and read every email. Please keep it going.
>
> Ardell Lien
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 3
> Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2008 08:04:33 -0800
> From: "Don Haas"
> Subject: Re: M_Boats: from Kendall
> To: "For and about Montgomery Sailboats"
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> Hi Kendall;
>
> Just to clarify - I didn't glue all the styrofoam together, just the liner.
> I used the plastic foam mostly because it was free, salvaged from shipping
> boxes from work. Plywood will work the same, and probably a lot easier too.
> Good luck on you project.
>
> Don
> ----- Original Message -----
> From:
> To:
> Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2008 5:02 AM
> Subject: Re: M_Boats: from Kendall
>
>
>> Thanks guys for all your comments. I saw a picture on the MSOG site that
>> showed a M-15 swamped but not turtled. The reason I'm concerned about it
>> going over is I have two boys that at some point ask to go solo. I just
>> don't want issues with them while I not around. But then we do the same
>> thing when we turn them loose in a car, don't we?
>>
>> Don, the glueing back of the foam was more what I had in mind. Thanks. I
>> was thinking more in terms of lightweight plywood of something like that.
>>
>> Dave, I would appreciate some pics. Thanks. [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>
>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 4
> Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2008 08:19:55 +0000
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: M_Boats: Wet lockers...question from Kendall
> To: [email protected]
> Message-ID:
>
>
>
> Dave, I was sitting in the cabin just daydreaming about how to utilize the
> space better and one of the ideas that I thought of was to take the cockpit
> lockers out and that would open up a great deal of space as well as give me
> access all the way aft. Is that what happened to the later models? The
> design changed?
>
> Can you send some pictures please. [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> Kendall in NW Louisiana M-15 #164
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 5
> Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2008 09:41:44 -0800 (PST)
> From: W David Scobie
> Subject: Re: M_Boats: Wet lockers...question from Kendall
> To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats
>
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> Kendall:
>
> i believe this is a owner option. don't know if this was done by jerry in
> '84 or by a prior owner.
>
> yes LOTS of space, thought i always worry about putting to much all in the
> stern.
>
> i'll be sharing photos shortly (need to visit the boat in winter storage
> today).
>
>
> dave scobie
> M15#288, not yet named
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Dave, I was sitting in the cabin just daydreaming about how to utilize the
> space better and one of the ideas that I thought of was to take the cockpit
> lockers out and that would open up a great deal of space as well as give me
> access all the way aft. Is that what happened to the later models? The design
> changed?
>
> Can you send some pictures please. [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> Kendall in NW Louisiana M-15 #164
>
> ---------------------------------
> Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage.
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 6
> Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2008 13:16:32 -0800
> From: Gary M Hyde
> Subject: Re: M_Boats: Wet lockers...question from Kendall
> To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats
>
> Message-ID:
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>
> Kendall:
> I cut out one of the cockpit lockers in my M15. Be sure to provide it
> with a positive lid latch, so that if you heel too far over you don't
> fill the cabin with water thru the locker lid that would likely fly
> open if not latched.
> --Gary Hyde
> 2005 M17 sailboat #637 'Hydeaway 2'
> We can't change the wind, but we can trim our sails.
>
> On Feb 26, 2008, at 9:41 AM, W David Scobie wrote:
>
>> Kendall:
>>
>> i believe this is a owner option. don't know if this was done by
>> jerry in '84 or by a prior owner.
>>
>> yes LOTS of space, thought i always worry about putting to much all
>> in the stern.
>>
>> i'll be sharing photos shortly (need to visit the boat in winter
>> storage today).
>>
>>
>> dave scobie
>> M15#288, not yet named
>>
>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>> Dave, I was sitting in the cabin just daydreaming about how to
>> utilize the space better and one of the ideas that I thought of was
>> to take the cockpit lockers out and that would open up a great deal
>> of space as well as give me access all the way aft. Is that what
>> happened to the later models? The design changed?
>>
>> Can you send some pictures please. [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>
>> Kendall in NW Louisiana M-15 #164
>>
>> ---------------------------------
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>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 7
> Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2008 17:10:32 -0500
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: M_Boats: Wet lockers...question from Kendall
> To: [email protected]
> Message-ID:
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>
>
> Gary,
>
>
>
> That's a good thought, however, last year when I was blown over, (as Dave
> Scobie pointed out) I took water into the cockpit and lockers from over the
> gunwal and the shear force of the water rushing in, found it's way into my
> dry locker.? I have latches on my lockers which never opened.??The next day I
> opened my locker and found about 8 inches of water.??It was a good thing it
> was my?starboard locker, since my port locker has been cut out, and I did not
> have a bilge pump installed at the time.? As far as the stability of the
> Montgomery............if you?have buried the starboard gunwal below the water
> line and the cockpit is filling up with water and you don't end up swimming
> with the fishes...........then I don't believe?"turning turtle" will be a
> problem.? IMHO, however, I have turned turtle on two other boats?that I
> owned.? I guess I'm must be a terrible sailor to admit that one!!!? Anyone
> willing to?crew with me???? I guess not.?
>
> Fairwinds to all,
> Skip Campion
> M-15 #210, Wild Guppy
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Gary M Hyde
> To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats
> Sent: Tue, 26 Feb 2008 4:16 pm
> Subject: Re: M_Boats: Wet lockers...question from Kendall
>
>
>
>
> Kendall:
> I cut out one of the cockpit lockers in my M15. Be sure to provide it
> with a positive lid latch, so that if you heel too far over you don't
> fill the cabin with water thru the locker lid that would likely fly
> open if not latched.
> --Gary Hyde
> 2005 M17 sailboat #637 'Hydeaway 2'
> We can't change the wind, but we can trim our sails.
>
> On Feb 26, 2008, at 9:41 AM, W David Scobie wrote:
>
>> Kendall:
>>
>> i believe this is a owner option. don't know if this was done by
>> jerry in '84 or by a prior owner.
>>
>> yes LOTS of space, thought i always worry about putting to much all
>> in the stern.
>>
>> i'll be sharing photos shortly (need to visit the boat in winter
>> storage today).
>>
>>
>> dave scobie
>> M15#288, not yet named
>>
>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>> Dave, I was sitting in the cabin just daydreaming about how to
>> utilize the space better and one of the ideas that I thought of was
>> to take the cockpit lockers out and that would open up a great deal
>> of space as well as give me access all the way aft. Is that what
>> happened to the later models? The design changed?
>>
>> Can you send some pictures please. [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>
>> Kendall in NW Louisiana M-15 #164
>>
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